Do all women cheat?

[NewDon]

Hey guys,

i was watching a live U2 concert yesterday on tv. during one of the songs, bono calls a girl from the audience on stage, lays her down on stage, lays next to her, takes her under his arm and sings the rest of the song. at the end of the song, he kisses her... just a peck... but i'm sure he could have done more if he'd have wanted to, and probably did after the show.

i don't know this girl, she may have had a bf or may have been single- given the look on her face when we was kissing bono i don't think it rally mattered to her either way. my question is, do all women cheat? i know a lot of the guys on this forum brag about how they are alpha and steal other guys gf's, but by their logic, if they got into a LTR, then their gf would just cheat on them with some other guy who was even more alpha.

let's face it, i doesn't matter how alpha you are (or think you are), if brad pitt or bono or [insert alpha celebrity] go after your girl, then there is a good chance they would succeed. so does that mean that all women would cheat given the opportunity?

personally, if i'm in a LTR, i'm pretty loyal... and i'm sure a lot of other guys are too. i'm a man of my word, so if i tell a girl that i won't cheat on her then i don't, i don't care if jessica alba wanted to sleep with me. but i doubt that this values system exists in females.

what do u guys think? are women only as loyal as their options?

p.s. please don't send me sh!t replies telling me i'm a beta or an AFC, or if ur more alpha than me... i don't care... just reply to the question.

 

[wolf116]

I think most chicks could be gamed into kissing some dude but sex is alot different.

I think It is the same with guys. I would not sex another chick but I always go out and get phone numbers and just for fun.

If jessica alba wanted to sleep with me I would call my GF up to join in.

 

[jonwon]

Hey guys,

i was watching a live U2 concert yesterday on tv. during one of the songs, bono calls a girl from the audience on stage, lays her down on stage, lays next to her, takes her under his arm and sings the rest of the song. at the end of the song, he kisses her... just a peck... but i'm sure he could have done more if he'd have wanted to, and probably did after the show.

i don't know this girl, she may have had a bf or may have been single- given the look on her face when we was kissing bono i don't think it rally mattered to her either way. my question is, do all women cheat? i know a lot of the guys on this forum brag about how they are alpha and steal other guys gf's, but by their logic, if they got into a LTR, then their gf would just cheat on them with some other guy who was even more alpha.

let's face it, i doesn't matter how alpha you are (or think you are), if brad pitt or bono or [insert alpha celebrity] go after your girl, then there is a good chance they would succeed. so does that mean that all women would cheat given the opportunity?

personally, if i'm in a LTR, i'm pretty loyal... and i'm sure a lot of other guys are too. i'm a man of my word, so if i tell a girl that i won't cheat on her then i don't, i don't care if jessica alba wanted to sleep with me. but i doubt that this values system exists in females.

what do u guys think? are women only as loyal as their options?

p.s. please don't send me sh!t replies telling me i'm a beta or an AFC, or if ur more alpha than me... i don't care... just reply to the question.

the answer is hard to come up with.

women are percived to be emotional driven, so there could be the possibility under the wrong situations for her to cheat.

But this is like stating men are looks driven so they may cheat.

I dont know the full answer.

But i do know 'worrying' about the answer will just get your mind in a bit of a mess.

simple fact is if you dont trust the women you are with then time to move on.
Worrying if and why they will cheat will just send you a little insane.

Women have been in relationships and never cheated and so have men.

Women have cheated on relationships.
And so have men.

so it can go either way.

you cant really think all women will cheat as it is clear alot of women wont and dont, regardless of the situation.

and most women recognize where she could cheat, so they normally remove themself from that temptation.

as for the bono things, it seems a very nice gesture and if i was with that girl i would have been happy for her to have had that opportunity! That is not something i would even consider and match cheating up with.

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

NO

My parents have been married over 30 years and neither EVER cheated or even thought of it. Stop generalizing the entire female gender based on a subset of hors. There are many good women out there. Just stop trying to looking for them in bars/clubs.

 

[NewDon]

been reading through the responses and thinking about this...

i think part of the reason women cheat or leave men for more 'alpha' men, is based on something Pook said... that women base their happiness and value on the value (alphaness) of the man they are with. so in order for them to move ahead in life, they constantly have to get better and better men.

in comparison, many guys (including DJ's) don't cheat because they don't base their happiness and self-worth on the woman. guys increase their value and their happiness by strenghthening thier bodies, improving their financial situation, accomplishing their dreams.

i've come up with reasons why a girl won't cheat or leave a guy as soon as a another guy comes along.
1) the guy she is with is the most 'alpha' of all the guys chasing her
2) being with the current guy provides emmotional, financial or social advantages... and this may be more important than better sex... so for this reason the girl will stick with her guy, rather than going for a better looking more 'alpha' male.
3) a loophole for the above scenario is of course, she could just sleep with the more 'alpha' guy and keep the 'beta' guy as a wallet and emmotional tampon - however, she may not do this because she may be afraid of getting caught.
4) she is very 'moral' or 'religious' etc... and so doesn't cheat, even though she wants to... this scenario can usually be detected when she stops wanting to have as much sex, and when you do have sex with her, she may scream someone else's name. lol. (this might explain why some marriages last for 30 years, but the passion dies after 1)
5) she is in that 'romantic' phase of the relationship, where she thinks that the guy she is with is the most perfect guy in the world... and so she would never want to leave him... women often call this 'being in love'... it's usually caused by hormones oxytocin, serotonin and dopamine and usually fades after 6 months. (duration may vary depending on don juanness of the guy she is with)
6) the guy is the father of her children, or her best friend or some other bull****... so she feels too guilty cheating on him...

that's all i could come up with.. aside from '1)' none of the options are actually that appealing... i was hoping to find a seventh reason... something positive... but i haven't been able to...

 

[frivolousz21]

you can throw everything you just wrote or theorized out the window.

if you want a woman that wont cheat..then find a good one...if you cant figure that out you have no chance in this.

ive said this in another thread..I know many woman 22-25 that are respectful and attractive..and wouldnt cheat on a guy they care for.....you sound crazy writing out all that crap to justify why you cant get a good woman..relax..date..and im sure if you look for quailities like integridy, morals, loyalty, honor, giving, caring...you will find a good woman..there are plenty out there

 

[THE_ADDMAN]

Under the right circumstances, ANYONE could (and would) cheat.

 

[Scought]

It was BONO.

Meaning, how many women get the opportunity to be 'sung' to by Bono on stage? Not many.

Therefore, those that do, probably have a little more fun with it, because its a once in a lifetime thing.

Secondly, it's Bono. Not every guy a girl meets is a multi-multi millionaire, that is recognized around the world, and regarded as one of the greastest musicians of all time.

You can't take one incident and cast a large shadow over the female gender.
What if she had slapped him?

Would you then ask--do all women slap guys that make a move on them?

No.

 

[squirrels]

A woman who is not satisfied will find an excuse to "cheat". A man who is not satisfied will find an excuse to "cheat".

The whole concept of "cheating" exists because the "relationship" is looked at as a binding contract, instead of an association between two people who enjoy spending time together. If all that's keeping your girl from cheating on you is the label of "relationship", then she's really not your girl at all.

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

Under the right circumstances

"Under the right circumstances" is just basically a loophole to defend yourself of any clear contradictions. So I could show you countless examples of good women out there who have never cheat and you'll whip out that loophole and say it wasn't "under the right circumstances".

You should be a lawyer.

 

[Nighthawk]

At Live Aid, Bono got three girls out of the audience and kissed them and danced with them in front of millions of people. Two of those girls were my ex gfs older sisters. They were 13 and 15 and had bunked off school to go to the concert without telling their mum.

They said Bono was sweaty and short, and didn't find him sexy at all.


On-topic, no, all women do not cheat.

 

[Raikojo17]

men cheat
women cheat

everybody cheats and nobody is perfect.
if u want t relationship with someone then have one and enjoy it instead of worrying about if they are going to cheat.

love does not stop cheating. im sure u guys did some pretty shady things to ur family without them knowing, and im sure u love them, and that fact didnt stop u.

so yea, everybody can cheat, no matter how much caring and love there is. no relationship is perfect.

 

[Rebound Material]

NO

My parents have been married over 30 years and neither EVER cheated or even thought of it. Stop generalizing the entire female gender based on a subset of hors. There are many good women out there. Just stop trying to looking for them in bars/clubs.

WORD.

Ive always questioned the quality of chicks that you can pick up in clubs/bars.

 

[Remulak]

Don't worry about, if she does you dump her end of story. Some say how do you find out but eventually you will. The only thing you can do is find a quality girl although she may not end up as quality.

 

[Snow Plowman]

Yes all women do cheat. If a cooler and more fun guy comes into the picture he will end up attracting the girl and if it goes on for long they'll end up having sex. There are so many LRs about guys who've done it, TD even has an old post talking about how to take horny chicks away from other people.

I personally have talked to girls who I later found out had a BF. (They usually don't say it unless its a congruence test) Back when I was younger I would've never went through with it but then again I'm the cooler guy she has more fun with me so hey might as well.

The thing is girl's who are real hot are usually talking to more than one guy. An usually end up choosing one, or messing with the ones who she feels most attracted too.

Back when I first started I remember not approaching a girl because I couldn't ever tell if she was single or not. We'd be kinoing hardcore, but then I'd find out she was already talking to someone. So I slowly backed off, and realized she is talking to my friend. (He #closed her) She was acting as if they talk to each other but two days later I realized she started talking to her crush. Later on I day2 her and realize she brought her BF? (But I thought she was talking to her crush) Two days later I heard her talking to my friend about how she got fuked by her crush?

So you see it really doesn't matter, these girls who are hot are getting hit on by so many different guys. So while your calling it cheating she doesn't think of it like that. Even on TD's Blog he talks about his gf's friends how there all hot and if you seen them they look like regular innocent girls. But these girls get fuked by guys and the guys are thinking that there in a LTR, but the girl's aren't thinking of it like that. They are thinking of it more like, they just had sex.

I can go on and on but it really doesn't matter, if your the coolest guy she knows she will end up staying with you. So longs a cooler guy doesn't come into the picture and actually doesn't get blown out, then he'll get her.

 

[THE_ADDMAN]

"Under the right circumstances" is just basically a loophole to defend yourself of any clear contradictions. So I could show you countless examples of good women out there who have never cheat and you'll whip out that loophole and say it wasn't "under the right circumstances".

You should be a lawyer.

damn right. nothing is completely black and white, ESPECIALLY something like this.

and I lack the attention span and patience to become a lawyer. :woo:

 

[sca_p]

No. If you're with a quality woman and your committed to each other, she won't cheat.

 

[howardalex]

do all women cheat?

no.

 

[The Shocker]

Theoretically, I think yes...if you provide the girl with the specific and exact feelings, etc. that she specifically CRAVES, then yes, you could get any girl to cheat.

In practice, no, not all women cheat. Remember, the above is all about perception. You may think you are with a great girl, but then a greater girl comes along and you realize that maybe you weren't so right about the first one. In this case, if a woman CRAVES the feelings her bf gives her so much, and has a decent value system, then no, she won't cheat.

 

[Mindtrust]

No, there are lots of decent women out there who wouldnt mess around, i wouldnt settle for anything less..

You know when you have a good women

Mindtrust