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(DJs Help)..best friends Bday, should i get her a gift if she didn on mine?!

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yehh i know this could be a gay Q! ....but come to think of it if i get her one now then i would be encourgin her kind of behavior!

I thought of gettin her a special made Tshirt with all he nicknames i give her! Is that too much ?! Should i get her smthn small or just go there with nothin and forget bout it?!;p

Ps: i am not intrested in her at all shes jst the best friend (girl) i have!
 

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I wouldn't play stupid crap like that.
Its her birthday, she's a friend...

Something small, like a T-Shirt works.

How long did you know her before you got shafted on your bday? That could be why she didn't get you anything.
 
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Alle_Gory said:
I wouldn't play stupid crap like that.
Its her birthday, she's a friend...

Something small, like a T-Shirt works.

How long did you know her before you got shafted on your bday? That could be why she didn't get you anything.
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well she knew me for 2 months before my bday and we were really close, i mean at one point a guy asked me "are u guys datin?" lol

btw i went to her bday tday it was good we danced and had fun but i didn get her anythin, now should i get her that tshirt with her nicknames on it or just forget it ?? or get her smthn small ?
 
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This is common sense.... Why would you get her something for her bday if she didnt get you anything??? Give me one reason, not to mention you prolly got LJBFd by her and stayed with her.

I dont understand how a girl can be you best friend anyway, i am sure you want to fluck her. Only guys that i know who have girls as their best friend are the gay guys who dont like vagina and titties
 
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haha actually i was the one to LJBF her, cause am not attracted to her, ohh n havin her as a bestfriend is great not like i stay up late and gossip with her all night :p
she is cool thats why she is my bestfriend!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

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She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

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Yes - Get your friend a gift. this is why ...

By getting your friend a gift, you show a maturer, higher side to your
character. You'll seem unaffected by her not having given you a gift for your B-day. Women find this attractive. Even though you don't like her in that way, she'll nonetheless find you attractive. And who knows, maybe one day you two will hook up;)
 
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jcluv said:
By getting your friend a gift, you show a maturer, higher side to your
character. You'll seem unaffected by her not having given you a gift for your B-day. Women find this attractive. Even though you don't like her in that way, she'll nonetheless find you attractive. And who knows, maybe one day you two will hook up;)
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I gotta say i highly doubt this.

1: He's already said that he's not "attracted to her" which in my dictionary means he'd **** her, but he wouldn't work for it.

2: He's clearly in the friendzone

3: She seems interested in him as a friend, nothing more. or she would have gotten him something for his b-day.

If it were me, i'd have gotten her something cheap, maybe 5 bucks worth.
 
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lol omg lsn up folks, i am not wat so ever intrested in her sexually at all! and no i think if i wanted to make her a gf i could easily but i am not intrested so y ruin a cool friendship!!.....ohh and restating the facts i went to her BDAY party and no i didn get her anythin....should i get her smthn now and give it to her at college or just forget about it

the thing is i felt like we r losing touch now and thats why am overanalyzing such a simple thing, i don wanna come off as another NICE GUY of her FRIENDS, i want her to look at me and say damn i should set him up with my hot friends ! ;p lol
 
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No, don't get her sh!t.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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lol omg lsn up folks, i am not wat so ever intrested in her sexually at all! and no i think if i wanted to make her a gf i could easily but i am not intrested so y ruin a cool friendship!!.....ohh and restating the facts i went to her BDAY party and no i didn get her anythin....should i get her smthn now and give it to her at college or just forget about it

the thing is i felt like we r losing touch now and thats why am overanalyzing such a simple thing, i don wanna come off as another NICE GUY of her FRIENDS, i want her to look at me and say damn i should set him up with my hot friends ! ;p lol
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This isn't AOL chat. English, please.
 
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yeh i think am just gonna go with it and not get her anythin...i wanted to find the most DJ approach to this tricky issue thats it!

thanx all
 
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Wolf said:
"i want her to look at me and say damn i should set him up with my hot friends ! ;p lol"

Girls enjoy setting up their "nice guy" friends (usually futile attempts)
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WATTTTT!!.....haha hell f*** no!........when a girl sees u as a DJ she will think of u as a DJ then she will introduce her sexy friends to u!


NICE GUYS NEVER GO ON DATES EXCEPT FOR THE FREE DINNER THE WOMEN GETS!
 
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WAKE THE HELL UP!

Don't get her anything you wouldn't get your boys! Do you even buy gifts for your boys? Don't treat her any different. I give my female friends a shot on their birthday if we all go out somewhere...same thing I give my boys. I give my girlfriends real presents.
 
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Warrior74 said:
WAKE THE HELL UP!

Don't get her anything you wouldn't get your boys! Do you even buy gifts for your boys? Don't treat her any different. I give my female friends a shot on their birthday if we all go out somewhere...same thing I give my boys. I give my girlfriends real presents.
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Its about time someone came here and made sense of it all!

MaxPayne its time that you act a little bit like the manly fictional character you were naming yourself after then a giggly teenage girl.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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DJDamage said:
Its about time someone came here and made sense of it all!

MaxPayne its time that you act a little bit like the manly fictional character you were naming yourself after then a giggly teenage girl.
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What are you talking about? Max Payne fell for the fitst hot chick to cross his path with a gun! :p

I think i've got to disagree with Warrior here, Experience shows me that even giving a chick a cheap gift (in my case, a 5$ chocolate bar) will get their attention in your direction at which point you can take control of the situation. Whether you move forward or not.

5$ is next to nothing, that's a coffee or at best a few miles of gas, i would feel like a loser to not get her ANYTHING, but i'm definately not getting her something that costs me time/money/effort.

It's like tipping a bad waiter a buck, not gonna cost YOU much, but they'll think about it for awhile.
 
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What are you talking about? Max Payne fell for the fitst hot chick to cross his path with a gun! :p.
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I was mostly referring to his do or die take no prisoners attitude, which is alot more then 'oh gosh what can I get for my best friend who happens to be a girl bday'.
 
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aight folks appreciatin the on goin feedback, but i already decided not to get her anythin.
plus if i get her anythin now after her bday its gonna be super gay.

MAX PAYNE IS A LEGEND!;)
 
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