"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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DJing one girl in a group of 4 friends!? how?

solo1

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anyway once a week im in this art class. there are these 4 foreign students..girls, they mainly sit together in one table. However since the case that they are foreign students, it doesnt mean that they're friends, but they keep between themselves a lot...usually not making much of an effort to speak to anyone else in class. Their english is excellent i might add.

So there's a hb8.5, hb7, hb 6, hb 5. And im interested in the hb8.5 & 7, as i've made ec with both on different occasions. but i know i can only choose one/ask one out as things are bound only to be ugly any other way.

my friend tried to get them to socialize a bit by kidding around and exchanging their currency with ours...not much success.
Initially i have this broad plan sometime next week to chat them up, be friendly to all 4. And probably focusing and isolating one eventually from the other 3...and # closing,etc. I havent the slightest clue what i will use for an icebreaker, likely comment on their art...but unsure how to go from icebreaking all 4 to isolating/# closing 1 girl.

So far, i think they see what a great sociable guy i am because i speak to everyone in class which includes 4 of my friends. i was relaxed, funny, and comfortable with myself. however i fear it only intimidates them more.

They are foreign, they are shy/reserved, are they single ( i would like to know)? If anyone has any idea how to DJ/PU foreign students, or what to do in my situation, it would be great help..!
 

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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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solo1 said:
anyway once a week im in this art class. there are these 4 foreign students..girls, they mainly sit together in one table. However since the case that they are foreign students, it doesnt mean that they're friends, but they keep between themselves a lot...usually not making much of an effort to speak to anyone else in class. Their english is excellent i might add.

So there's a hb8.5, hb7, hb 6, hb 5. And im interested in the hb8.5 & 7, as i've made ec with both on different occasions. but i know i can only choose one/ask one out as things are bound only to be ugly any other way.

my friend tried to get them to socialize a bit by kidding around and exchanging their currency with ours...not much success.
Initially i have this broad plan sometime next week to chat them up, be friendly to all 4. And probably focusing and isolating one eventually from the other 3...and # closing,etc. I havent the slightest clue what i will use for an icebreaker, likely comment on their art...but unsure how to go from icebreaking all 4 to isolating/# closing 1 girl.

So far, i think they see what a great sociable guy i am because i speak to everyone in class which includes 4 of my friends. i was relaxed, funny, and comfortable with myself. however i fear it only intimidates them more.

They are foreign, they are shy/reserved, are they single ( i would like to know)? If anyone has any idea how to DJ/PU foreign students, or what to do in my situation, it would be great help..!
You are on a good road just take it easy let time by fast talk to them for a little while,until they get more comfortable probaly around 1 or 2 months you will talk to them more and be comfortable,relaxed so will they so just let time do the game!

-SARGE ON!
 

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If they speak English well, treat them like any other women. Your basic plan in sound. Win over the group, isolate the target, build a little more comfort with her, and close.

For the icebreaker, just talk about the class. When talking to them, don't just ask a bunch of questions like you're interviewing them. Tell stories like you're talking to a bunch of friends. If you have any experience with negs, throw one or two of those at the target early on. Other than negs, ignore the target and focus on her friends. After 10 minutes or so, ask the group if you can borrow the target. If you're won over the group, they won't mind. Tell the target that you want to show her something and guide her somewhere close by with less or no people. Talk some more, then close. If you think you can kiss her at this point, even better.
 
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