"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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DJ tactics do not work on Chinese women

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I've been dating a Chinese woman over two weeks (4 dates). I'm not talking about an HBAsian from SoCal, I'm talking about an actual Chinese woman from China, whose English is still a little shaky.

I was wondering if anyone out there has experience with this. She's a high quality girl (it's not everyday you meet a cute chick working on a Ph.D.), but I'm not sure how to procede.

There are some pretty heavy differences: In China, it is actually quite normal for a couple to marry and have children without once kissing eachother on the mouth.

I have been a challenge, and it was working. She keeps asking me about everything, my parents, my philosophy of life, etc. But I've taken challenge too far, perhaps. She turned me down for another date, but later sent me this e-mail:

all i want is to have more interesting conversations between us. i always think the first and foremost relationship between men and women is friendship, no matter what they will end up in the future, be it married couples, colleagues, hang out buddies, or lovers. open up and tell each other fears, joys, surprises, plights, etc. Become sincere friends and honest with each other. It is not the cultural difference as you said on the phone. We are human beings, which means we do have emotions, feelings, anxieties, puzzles we want to share with others. And it is always nice to have friends to share things with.

I would very much like to go out with you the coming tuesday should you identify with me.
So she wants me to share all my innermost feelings after 4 dates? It sounds like the usual advice females give out to weed out the chumps. When American women say this, they're testing you.

If you actually do what they want, and reveal your innermost self after 4 freakin dates, the "chemistry" will mysteriously vanish.

But this is not an American woman. I'm not sure how much of my inner AFC should come through. Any thoughts?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Howdy Phyzzle.

I'm a chinese dude living in Hong Kong, so I felt I HAD to put a little something here...

Ok, heres the thing, in China its common for people to Marry without having MET each other. But these are like...farmer people.

You have to remember, China is one big motherf*cker- so the culture is totally split. Don't stereotype her.

Considering she can actually SPEAK english, don't be too worried(that email was written with better grammer than most posts on this forum). She's more westernised than you think. Most "Never kissed before getting married" types you speak of can barely read and write.

Hate to shoot myself in the foot, but most (80%) of chinese women are gold digger though. Beware.
 

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next her she won't be giving you any anytime soon.

maybe shes testing to see if you're after a quick lay or actually interested in her for the long haul.
 

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every chinese girl ive met has come from an extremely wealthy family and is attracted to wealth.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Phyzzle, you are right about the "weeding out chumps" part but wrong about "testing." She's not testing you dude, because she's made up her mind and placed you in the friendszone. It takes a woman ONE SECOND to determine if you are attractive/safe enough for her, it takes a woman ONE DATE to determine if there is a possibility of a relationship for her.

Stereotypes aside, I do notice that some Asian women get into relationships with men or marry them without feeling passion for each other. It's almost as if she becomes some sort of caretaker or a "Yes" woman of a sort. If you're into that go ahead. But for my business like personality, I like a woman that is crazy or emotional fidgety than someone that just follows me around and says yes all the time.
 

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Mmm, I was about to reply to the topic because a lot of Chinese girls I've been with have been really shy and all this "be a crazy challenge to get/hella negs" stuff really just doesn't work, they just get discouraged... HOWEVER this girl's is obviously not like that... she definitely seems pretty westernized to me, seeing as how she has a firm grip on the english language and all. I think it's pretty obvious that this has only 2 ways to go, so decide for yourself...
1) LTR (if you really play your cards right)

or

2) Friendzone
 

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PheonixUK said:
http://chinabounder.blogspot.com/
This is the blog of a DJ in China. Chinese women aren't anti-sex if you can push their buttons
Actually, that was proven to be a fake "performance piece," although I have read "real" blogs with similar attitudes/accounts (but not to that extreme).

Anyhow, a poor mother/divorcee with a kid = quality? Lmao, not in my book...
 

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Chinese women are crazy horney! Damn! I can get them in the back of my car anytime I want. They are wonderfull! Some are a bit fixed on money but they give you want you want.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Anyhow, a poor mother/divorcee with a kid = quality? Lmao, not in my book...
I guess I'm used to American chicks being all that, and uneducated, and fat, and loud.

Well, challenge did work for me:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=109654

Don't give and and reveal your innermost feelings right away. That's still the same for any woman. However, whenever I said something ****y, she would roll her eyes. The whole being ****y thing is right out, even as a joke.
 
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