"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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DJ Bootcamp: Week 6

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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo Congradulations on those who did get through it would be very rare for u to get this far and u should definettly give your self a pat on the back. Hm i have no idea how many of u guys are left, i am going to guess HBK ur still going, but azrael, Thyme and cool i havn't heard from u lately, but seen u still been listing the field so maybe u got through. Well anyways for the people who did make it again well done, this is where things start looking good going on dates whilst spinning loads of plates on the side. So this is still going to be tough to maintain the level u have now has well has still improve on it. Keep pusing urself and u will get through this week 8 is just round the corner. This task u again have two weeks to complete it.

Exercises

There are four exercises for this fortnight (that’s right, another two weeks to complete them all!)

Exercise 1

Call up those girls whom we went on dates with during the previous week, and whom we are interested in seeing again. Our goal is still to stay less than ten minutes on the phone in order to set up a non-weekend date.

Exercise 2

Experiment with the new strategies in the reading material for further increasing the girls' interest level.

Exercise 3

Go and get more phone numbers if the number of live numbers you've collected so far has dropped below ten.

Exercise 4

If you have not kiss closed the girl on the first date, make sure you do so on this date. Just adding a bit of personal insight here – never be scared to kiss her. If she ever refuses, then she doesn’t like you that way and isn’t likely to change. move on. After all, you do have at least ten phone numbers, don’t you?

Special exercise notes

This lesson is to be completed within two weeks, after which, or during this lesson, you are to report back about one or more of your dates, and the results you've a quired, especially those results where you experimented with something new in the response thread.

And guys... after this lesson, we only have two more to go! After that, you will be one of the few, the proud, who actually went all the way and managed to complete this Boot Camp! And not to mention the fact that you will have a quired the foundation to acquire women at will!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Ok out of the 10 i am going to probs only keep 5 of my plates, due to some of them i feel were just not my type and i have also reduced my upper age to 26, so that cut out some has well. I will give them call tommorow and c what i get, i have apparently got to get the first dates and second dates with one girl in the 2 weeks though. My dates are also going to have to be done late or on weekends due to work, if i am able not to get dates, then i guess i just go out and get more numbers, worst comes to worst it is a win win situation.
 

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dam i suck, so many hot girls walking round and i decided to do nothing, what an afc. I hate myself for that and it hurts. I did do one approach she said "she was seeing someone" but i personally think i ****ed it up, she was nice though. Also i afc'ed again, was in a church fair kind of thing, i was prolonging to approach the one cute single girl that was there. Then i fell in a conversation with the vicar and another guy talking about the army and it was difficult to leave has i watched her walk out in the distance. So yeh very bad day, it was a fun day though despite that. Anyway i will update again soon, but i am quite busy so i will catch ya later.
 

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hey man im sorry but i have decided to postpone the b/c untill college starts for me. i know its probably the lazy way out, but right now it is VERY hard for me to meet new girls that i consider attractive. plus, i only made it through week 3 of the b/c and i already hve a girlfriend. so hell, i know this stuff works and i am going to be pumped to restart in less than two months.

in the meantime what i will be working on will be appearance and getting bigger. wish me luck!

and good luck to you in finishing your b/c!!

thanks man its been fun
 

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hey man I posted fr some advice on how to get through this rejections sht but noone commented so yea I failed man.I am not disappointed.I guess I need to push myself more.I have a lot to learn and a lot of pushing myself to do.I hope to keep in touch with you guys.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Good to see u guys still alive lol, well done on getting has far has u got when i first tried this week 4 took me out has well. Just make sure to not keep leaving this thing over and over because thats what i did and it lasted over a year before i could honestly say i could handle rejection/closing. Thyme good to see u got a girlfriend out of this, i had the same thing happen to me, so at least u know u must b doing something right huh lol. Cool dude there is countless articles on how to handle rejection and they were given to u, but to b honest that is only like 5% of the puzzle, the other 95% is u just going screw it and going up to that girl and not caring anymore knowing it is not about this chick its about u and that if u do not do this u will never ever ever move from this point.

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Ok guys i am still being a stupid afc and my plates are not really going that great. So many nice girls, literally today i have never seen has many nice girls has today, probs because it was really hot lol. I keep making excuses and telling myself i will do it in the future what a idiot. I felt like such an afc when i got home. I am not going to stop this some how and not do this no more, not ever again never giving up like that. U know when people say take every day has its ur last day of ur life, i can c what they ment now. When i come home i am unhappy with myself always thinking of all the things i could of done. No more i will look at every individual day and stop thinking about that next time and do what ever i can on that day to make me look back on it and look in the mirror and actually like what i am looking back into.

Plates like i said are not going great, basically by putting it in business terms has sales - costs i am not making a profit lol and with in time i will have nothing.

girls in - girls out = loss

I went out on date monday it was pretty nice i bought her ice cream and we just walked and talked in park, got kind of close despite language barrier in some sense, but there are still some obstacles i got to get past with this one. I am going to go out tommorow and go out with another one has well. I feel i could b in a much great position if i just approach more. I had enough of trying to tick the dj bootcamp boxes, i will do my own thing if i end up ticking them anyway thats great.

Anyway i will give more detailed report at end.
 

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I love it man, keep up the bootcamp!
 

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well dude, I don't know.I got to figure something out.I can feel my nervousness coming back.I am going out tonight to meet woman,so all I can do is just try harder.Damn trying IS hard.
 

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yeh cool dude just stick to it, it is obviously working i have noticed a humanguous improvement with u, but u just got to take it that little bit further to get past that rejection wall.


Now what i came on here for, i have got 6 days to fufill all week 6's task. What basically happened was me being desperate and trying to get these done fast has possible, has made me come across desperate, needy and of no value. My date on thursday called me twice every single day and texted me every single day at least 5 times and me being the typical avaliable afc i responded to everyone and guess what she stood me up wtf!!!!? how can u stand someone up after u called them two times a day everyday, that one hurt and made no sense to me at the time what so ever.

My other date I tried for the kiss close near enough straight in the date and failed (Wow i usually never ever fail with kiss closes on dates) this was due to trying to tick one of my dj boxes. I was able to get close to her though hold hands spank her ass and stuff, but there was no real emotion with me and her, seeing i was to focused on doing the "task". I didn't even like the date it was uninteresting for me and the whole point of it was just to kiss close her and nothing else, i didn't feel one bit remotely close to her like i usually wud.

My other plate today texted me she was back in london after two weeks from seeing her, i immediately... called her and her line was busy so i texted her if she wanted come out the next day..., no reply so far and i doubt there would be.

After this my confidence was shattered when out so negative.... and blew out on every single set, well there was few i could of got number but i wasn't to interested in them so i exited.

Today i was talking to a friend at bowling alley, and i saw a girl with her huge family smile at me, she kept turning at me and smiling, her friend was pushing her towards me jokinly because it was so blatent. Now i should of just waved for her to come over to me and speack, but nooo i didn't do that. I waited for opportunity she was alone but didn't see it happening, so i got a friend there who works there to go to her and tell her to come over so it didn't intrude on her family. Didn't work out like that though, her family heard and she was smiling looking over at me kind of wanting to speack to me, but her sister came storming out start getting rude to me saying "DO U KNOW HER" and stuff, i left this set because i could see it was just going to get worst has other family members were getting ready to get up. Ironic that was the thing i didn't want to happen lol. Next time though that happens just wave the girl on to come over if she does she does, if not move on don't waste ur time.

I then had gym girl who is nice ask me for relationship again, i avoided it i like her, but it is just not for me right now and i don't want to waste her time. Besides i am not type to settle just because i am ****ing up with women anyway.

Guys seriously idk anymore i have never been on such a bad losing streak in my life and i don't see it stopping. Friend zoned for the first time in my life, failed kiss on date, a high mass of flaking, Stood up 2 times, Super bad sets and sometimes it is like i get bit of hope just to have it shattered to ground again. The whole point of this is to become better, how the hell can i become worst.

My theory
I don't really have the right to write any theorys in the state i am at moment, but i will anyway. Before when i started this everything was new to me, i was experiencing new wonerful things spreading my wings. At the moment i am still doing those things but now that i am doing them again i am carefully flying in my comfort zone, before my dates were new to me eg. ice skating, rowing, pool etc.... I never did these things before and were great for me and i actually enjoyed myself. Now they feel like same old and everytime i am on date i just don't have the same spark has before. The same goes with meeting women, same places and probs less. Before i went swing dance classes, gym classes, wrestling camps, sailing, clubs i never been before, all various places around uk etc.... Now i am just doing the exact same thing over and over again in my area. I am basically not improving, maybe the girls can see this. It is like the first time u go out to talk to a girl that seems impossible to talk to or u have not done it in ages and u don't think u can do it, but u go anyway. Leaping out of ur comfort zone and she sees that ur taking order of ur life and u will somewhere and that set goes amazinly great....maybe that is it IDK guys.

I think i need to have break from this, has much has i would like to complete it, but no point in doing something that will make u worst. So i will not rush because it is making to much desperation seep out of me. My new stratergy is to leave off the cold approaches for a while, do new skills and sports and focus on other parts of my life and spread my comfort zones every where else. Talk to women in my comfort zones for example chicks that have just finished a class with u, waiting for a bus with u. Basically within context. All this money i got instead of putting on dates, i think i will buy myself a new punching bag to take my frustration out on and some other things for boxing and increase my training.

I am sure this is a suprise to u all, but i don't wanna waste my time chasing girls. I just wanna do my own thing and spontanously approach with no out come dependancy what so ever.
 

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I know sometimes you hit a rough patch and can't see the light at the end of the tunnel. I've been there most of the past year. What you cannot cannot CANNOT do is take it personally and that is exactly what you are doing now.

1) A girl balks on a kiss close. Um... so? She just wasn't ready. Prime her and get her ready and try it again, I've literaly got about 25 kisses rejected in my life and managed to make out with at least 20 of them.. it's nothing serious.

2) A girl flakes after showing sooo much interest. Coming from me, a guy who I think thinks the same way you do with theories and the likes, I know it is hurts that much more when a seemingly sure thing blows up in your face. Chalk it up to chaos theory and keep it moving.

3) Getting stood up hurts but just smile it off. You got a great prize that other women have loved receiving and some (gym girl) want to receive as we speak. If a chick is too dumb to cash in then her loss.


In your old journal you say stuff like:
Rushing Dude said:
I know its going to take a lot of works guys but for myself, i will get this in the end......and if this game was easy i wudn't b so interested in it in the first place.
and now you are doing a complete 180...

I think another issue is that you got real successful real quick and so a lil hardship really throws a question mark over the game you thought you had down pat. Just keep on trucking. you're still a good at what you do.

Once you realize every shot doesn't go in, all that's left is to constantly work on improving your efficiency.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Well macallik what can i say ur completly 100% right. I have ****ed up a lot and i think i have become worst, but to b honest at the end of the day even the most worstest action completly ****ing up is better than no action at all. Because with one u probablly stand a slight chance and the value of experience, whilst the other u gain nothing.

Thanks for bringing that quote back, i have lost something and when i said "that" i had it. That one thing changes me from how i use to be to what i am now and u can see it without a doubt. Before my eyes could see the stars and now they can see only the dirt. Something many people don't have and seperated me from everyone else, funny enough every girl i got close to said that about me. I will find some way to get those eyes back and the only way to get them back is to go for the things that the eyes could see.

So let me put my thoughts and feelings that are on my mind right now with 4 days left. So

a. take columbian out for a second date before friday and attempt a kiss close again with her, also maybe get a back up chick for a first date to kiss close just in case (might b bit rushing to close>call> date>kiss close). Also 10 numbers in a night or 2 will not b a problem for me if i push it.

b. Take no action at all and forget women all together continue with my work and stuff because i got lot of work and training which i have been leaving behind.

c. Do things in my own time and practice more on warm approaches in context and build it back to cold approaches again. Whilst using my time to go libary study, gym, classes and use those things to increase my circle of good opportunitys.

d. Attempt everything at onc, because to be honest everything can be done if u put ur mind to it.

My Dj pride is saying A, My brain is saying B temporarly, my confidence is saying C and my heart is saying D. I would like to say i am going to sleep it off and think which one is right, but to b honest my gutt already knows which one it is and it asks me a question "what would b the most fun, exciting rewarding one?"
 

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l will use this thread to keep bootcamp going seeing this is where it ended before.
 
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