"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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dj bible says wait 4 days to call, will she still remember you though?

drift king

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if you read the dj bible it says never call the next day, you seem desperate. then says call between monday and wednesday (these are your calling days) the thing is.. won't she forget who you are if say you get a number on tuesday and wait till the following monday to call?

ok, i understand it assumes you picked her up really well and she has high IL but won't she resent you for waiting 7 days to call?

what if you feel she might not remember who you are or her IL drops each day u leave it to calll?

i picked up this girl from my college in the local supermarket yesterday, i didnt call today but was thinking of calling tomorrow afternoon to set up a date for monday or tuesday. is this call too soon?

i dont know how high her IL is i'd say moderate if i was being modest thats why i dont want to wait till monday to call and risk the IL dropping.. also the semester is nearly finished in 3 weeks and she'll be leaving soon.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Don't wait 7 days to call.

Intially what the purpose of waiting 7 days was to teach guys not to act or sound too desperate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0PUrNwvvBk&feature=related

Call the girl when you have the time too. The problem is that most AFC's have too much time on their hands and crave the attention of one girl, while DJ's have multiple number of girls and hobbies that take most of their time, so by pure necessity they might need to wait 7 days in order to clear their schedule.

If a woman has high interest in you, then she will remember you and will go out with you even after 7 days. Therefore the way you got her number is prehaps more important then waiting x amount of days in order for you to call her. Being too available for a woman however is counter-challenge and women interests tend to go higher when you are being a challenge to them (meaning they don't or can't have control over you).

The point is that once you get one girl number, don't stop from getting other numbers. Play the number games and always approach and close the deal.
 

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DJDamage said:
Don't wait 7 days to call.

Intially what the purpose of waiting 7 days was to teach guys not to act or sound too desperate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0PUrNwvvBk&feature=related

Call the girl when you have the time too. The problem is that most AFC's have too much time on their hands and crave the attention of one girl, while DJ's have multiple number of girls and hobbies that take most of their time, so by pure necessity they might need to wait 7 days in order to clear their schedule.

If a woman has high interest in you, then she will remember you and will go out with you even after 7 days. Therefore the way you got her number is prehaps more important then waiting x amount of days in order for you to call her. Being too available for a woman however is counter-challenge and women interests tend to go higher when you are being a challenge to them (meaning they don't or can't have control over you).

The point is that once you get one girl number, don't stop from getting other numbers. Play the number games and always approach and close the deal.
i agree.

but in this scenario i dont know how high her IL is, i can't say from the pick up how i did. i felt i did well, but i've been burnt the past few times so i try not to read too much into it.

would calling 2 days after i got the number be ok then?

its because it balances out better for me to say im busy this weekend so monday or tuesday are viable.

on the flip side i could call sunday if i want to take the risk free option however i risk her forgetting who i am/resent me for waiting the 3 days to call like im playing a game/strategy?

do i have to risk her forgetting who it was? right now i'd say she's moderately interested.. but the more days go by its possible the IL could drop. im thinking of striking while the iron is hot and im still fresh in her mind (1 would hope)

im still going for other girls, dont get me wrong tho as per my other thread it's difficult cos most of them are in 1 building on campus which she is in, and the likelihood of me getting caught is high.
 

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Your over thinking this again, just call her when you have the time. I would still wait 3 days just to be on the safe side ( I rather that the girl would think about me a bit longer).
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Calling the next day is cool but make it short.

I had a nice time, yadda yadda yadda, maybe I'll see you around.

Then ignore her for a month.
 

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FairShake said:
Calling the next day is cool but make it short.

I had a nice time, yadda yadda yadda, maybe I'll see you around.

Then ignore her for a month.

That's the way

:kick: :kick:
 

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The Don Juan Bible is just a foundation to help your game. You dont need to wait 3, 4 or 7 days to call a woman. I usually only waited a day or two then, called.

andy1989 said:
I call next day because I assume she is sitting next to the phone eagerly waiting for it to ring.
Thats what I think. Which, Is why I wait a day. Because, if she is waiting around hoping I call the next day and I dont. She will think I forgot about her or something. Until I call the next day... They usually seem excitied and happy I finally called.
 

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It depends on how well you know each other. If you just met, call sooner. Chicks meet new guys all the time. You havent had a chance to show her yourself yet, so call or text something flirtyfunny the next day or day after, to keep yourself fresh in her mind. Just dont call out of neediness, and you're fine.

If you already know each other, and you know for certain, she's into you, then make her wait a little. Remember, girls always have other options. They'd just as soon, go bang some other dude, than play waiting games. Wouldnt you?
 

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1-3 days, no sooner or later. 3 is almost pushing it, because you want to take advantage of any interest before it fades away.

If you cold approach, you MUST call the next day or she most likely will forget about you.
Here's an extremely simple strategy: tell her when you'll call her. I've actually tested this and it's excellent because it's almost like setting up a phone call as if it were a date. This way, you may stretch the 3 day rule. If she doesn't pick up, you have 2 more tries. If she forgets you, next her (you have little choice here.) Oh and don't ever leave a message.

Hope this clears things up.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Ok I get the 1-3 days part, but do you set up a date right off the first conversation?
 
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