"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Dismal response rate on match.com

Serg897

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Gentlemen,

I've tried two different dating websites the past few years - okcupid and match.

On okcupid, Ive always been able to have a moderate amount of success. For every 5-10 messages I send I will get at least one reply. And then a good percentage of those will turn into actual dates - however 100% of the women I've met in person from that website have been low quality, and only good for one night stands or short flings at a minimum.

Match is a different story. There seem to be more attractive women on there, however they seem much harder to reach - I think I've sent out over 100 messages so far and gotten at most 2-3 replies.

This is with exactly the same profile. So whats the deal here? I think these women have incredibly high standards - i.e. if you are under 6 feet tall, make under $100k a year, and dont look like a model, you aren't going to get that many replies from most of the attractive women on there.

I'm thinking about just abandoning any serious effort try to meet someone on there and instead changing my profile to meet the above criteria, and seeing what happens.

Has anyone ever had any success on match.com and how?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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women haze

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Give up on online dating...really you get better success just going out there and talking to women.

TRUST me on this....

keep going out you can meet women in some of the most random places you go to just by opening your mouth.

I met a chick at TGI fridays just by saying hello...LOL it's like that
 

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Yes... Trust him on this. They're all low quality. Being stuck up doesn't change this fact, or increase their value any.
 

Serg897

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I agree that meeting women in person is far more effective, although I like to use online dating as a nice supplement to my game sometimes, especially while I'm in a dry spell like this one.
 

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I'm juggling a lot of women via Match. Lots of meets. I think that I have good pics and a short funny profile, sincere and not trying too hard. I talk to women near and far, say random stuff, crack on something they said in their profile or a detail from a photograph, stuff like that...

Finally I seemed to meet someone who has what I am looking for. But she lives 7 hours away. We met this last weekend in a town halfway and screwed our brains out. But as I said good bye and drove home Sunday I just know that with this distance it would never work out. Sucks sometimes.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Robert28

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if the dating sites are free, it cant hurt. but be dammed if im going to PAY to meet women, especially low class ones at that. pof used to be 100% free but now i think they charge to do half the crap on there. dont know of any 100% TRUE free sites out there anymore.
 

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I went on OkCupid for the hell of it a month ago. I lasted two weeks of off and on. Talked with a few chicks who to me weren't that attractive. The Tri-state area IMO SUCKS. I couldn't find ONE hottie on that site. Hardly even bothered breaking chops or spamming it was so bad. Worse looking chicks than POF IMO. Dropped my profile after two weeks.

Match I went on YEARS ago for like two months. Met two hot chicks. One chick wanted to date me exclusively after one date. And tried to hold the pvssy hostage. lol. She went berserk when I told her a week later I had met someone out ( an eventual ex). Stage 5 clinger. No joke.

The second one I met as well on there before meeting my (eventual ex) out. Chick was gorgeous in person but a complete nut. Opened up about all kinds of issues she had. She got barred from the emergency room at the hospital near her because she kept going for 'heart attacks' and knew she had anxiety attacks.

Trust ALL chicks who resort to online dating are friggin whack jobs, damaged goods, single moms, slvts, attention wh0res etc. It can't be stressed enough.

If you're looking to bang off there.

Have your absolute best pictures up. (Tank top, shirtless beach pics, action shots) Show you are active, fun, and work out. period.

BRIEF Good, funny profile, with good spelling.

Spam out funny 'complimentary' first emails.

after three responses: Give me your number I'm not on here much.

Keep going till you get several numbers and set up meets A.S.A.P. Simple.
 
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