Discussion: The ESSENTIALS of Male Attractiveness

[Between_The_Lines]

Superbly worded post by Atom Smasher. We don't always agree but I think this post is spot-on. I will look forward to everyone's replies as well.

One other necessary quality is PASSION. I believe that almost every woman is drawn to a man who unquestionably transforms his passion into charisma or sex or income.

No doubt. I heard this one recently from a friend.

"Why'd you guys split?", I asked.
Her: "I mean, he was nice and all... but he had no passion".

I've known her for years, and even then it took a bit of self-restraint to follow that up with "zero tingles, huh?"

If you want to be a catch, make sure you're a 'live one'..

 

[RangerMIke]

Anyone have any good work outs for abs and arms and legs I can do at home?

Sucks I have a pinched nerve in both elbows (ulnar nerve entrapment)

I just use dumbells and bench. Bought the cheapest set and bench and had them for years. Don't remember what I paid but it was around $100. But when you need more weight just go get it it's about a dollar a pound. I alternate push then pull groups every other day.

Pull days alternating curls, bench pull, shoulder shrugs...don't know what this is called but I just bend over like I'm touching my toes and stand up. 3 sets of 15 each add weight as needed.

Push days bench press, military press, butterflies, shoulder press.

Leg workout every day. Squats, toe press.

Then 16 miles on the bike and a 2 mile run.

Then finish with pushups....100 as many as you can do in sets until you get to 100. Then 100 sit ups again in as many sets as it takes. This takes me 2 hours. Saturday I run 6 miles for speed that's all no weights. Sunday 1500 meter swim.

When I do a triathlon I rest three days before.

You really don't have to do any special ab work other than the situp. Getting decent abs has more to do with diet than exercising abs... your abs get a workout when you do all the other stuff. Low carbs... no sugar lay off the booze and beer... I only drink red wine no more than 2 glasses a day.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Be unique.

Be independent and individual.

Be it your appearance, sense of style, humour, hobbies, talents, opinions, world view, preferably all these things; stand out from the crowd.

Give people cause to remember you, adore you, miss you.

 

[VikingKing]

How men and women become competitive in the dating world,

Men
1. Work out routinely and be in good shape
2. Have a good job
3. Have money to throw around
4. Own a nice car
5. Live independently
6. Have genetically favorable hair
7. Have confidence, with ability to approach and initiate
8. Dress well
9. Be able to take charge and lead

Women
1. Put on makeup
2. Don't eat too much food and become morbidly obese

In terms of dating women play on "easy", men play on "nightmare". With that said, I'm still sure as hell glad I'm a man :yes:

Yup. It makes you smarter, and stronger. You also know yourself better and are more developed.

Having enabling benefits makes you weak.

 

[_sideways_]

Being great in bed is up there, but i think being charming is up there too.

But in all seriousness, if youre financially secure should be enough.

Thats what they find attractive.

Can you go on vacations, can you get nice material things...thats it.

Keep a girl laughing all day with ur charm and ur good in bed will be enough until they start wanting all the trips that their friends are going on, etc.

Its all stooopid really, until you find inner happiness.

Fvck em good and always leave them wanting more. Spend ur money on urself and offspring.

 

[EvilSpirit22]

Atom Smasher is absolutely right!

When I was 196 lbs even the girl who was interested in me never became my gf because I looked like a potato. As soon as I lost a little over 30 lbs and became 167 lbs I lost my virginity to a super hot girl and

Right now I am at 144 lbs and almost every hot girl stares at me because I know I look sexier now.

Just 10 more pounds to lose.

 

[yyc12]

Atom Smasher is absolutely right!

When I was 196 lbs even the girl who was interested in me never became my gf because I looked like a potato. As soon as I lost a little over 30 lbs and became 167 lbs I lost my virginity to a super hot girl and

Right now I am at 144 lbs and almost every hot girl stares at me because I know I look sexier now.

Just 10 more pounds to lose.

You trolling us brah? . As you get older you definitely don't want to be lighter. if you have a small frame 170lbs should be a reasonable target at least. I started at 135 and I can tell you things significantly change once you get into the 170s.

Having said this, nothing beats a great smile and good teeth...get ortho if you have to.

 

[sylvester the cat]

Good post but not entirely true.

One of the best salesmen and womaniser I ever met was a short, pudgy, balding guy in his late forties. that guy could have charmed the knickers off a lesbian.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Some people can't control their hair loss. Might as well take down number 6 because I seen bald guys scoring with chicks left and right. My hair is thinning and I don't even shave it and still get a decent amount of women

 

[zekko]

Right now I am at 144 lbs and almost every hot girl stares at me because I know I look sexier now.

Just 10 more pounds to lose.

I'm with yyc12 here, 134 lbs. is awfully light for a man. How tall are you, that makes some difference?

This brings up a point. One women like muscular men is because they look dominant and women like to feel protected. Sometimes a big husky guy who isn't necessarily in the best shape can be more attractive than a smaller muscular dude because the first guy is bigger and looks tougher and more dominant, even if he isn't fitness mag pretty.

 

[EvilSpirit22]

I'm with yyc12 here, 134 lbs. is awfully light for a man. How tall are you, that makes some difference?

This brings up a point. One women like muscular men is because they look dominant and women like to feel protected. Sometimes a big husky guy who isn't necessarily in the best shape can be more attractive than a smaller muscular dude because the first guy is bigger and looks tougher and more dominant, even if he isn't fitness mag pretty.

Yeah I am 5' 7" only and my frame is medium with broad shoulders and wide chest! I do have serious muscle mass and I am actually cutting right now. Once I get to around 60 kg i'll start to bulk up again till 70 kg and cut down to around 65 kg.

 

[MOTU]

Great sh!t in this thread. I am going to step out of the physical attraction realm and add: purpose. Chick has to feel like you are going somewhere. She wants to hitch a ride, not be the destination. She doesn't want to go nowhere with you.

 

[Atom Smasher]

There are some big men who a certain subset of women find attractive. These are the heavy "Teddy Bear" type of men.

What they have going for them is masculinity and an imposing presence yet they project harmlessness very strongly. Hence the attraction to those women who respond to those "daddy" affectations.

However most of our modern-day pudgy guys do not project masculinity. They seem very sexless. They are seen by women (and men for that matter) as weak lumps of flesh. It's interesting how most women respond well to both very masculine men and very feminine men. Just look at how feminine many of the so-called pickup gurus are.

Pudgy and out of shape is "game over" right out of the gate. If you're reading this and are 15 lbs overweight and are not a masculine presence, it is utterly impossible for you to attract a decent looking woman. If you have that "nice guy", sing-songy, emotive voice, the only thing you can attract is the pudgy women who you despise, although these days even they will likely filter you out. Guess what? These are the women who are in your league.

These women are mirrors. If you don't like what you see in the mirror, it is mandatory to escape your fantasies and get real with the kind of shape you're in.

 

[salinechow]

Ok. There is just to much to weigh in on here! I am going to add some things though.

The gym or fitness is ESSENTIAL. IN EVERY WAY. Muscles are nice but confidence, testosterone boost and mental and chemical balance are more important than the muscles that come with it. THIS IS THE #! ESSENTIAL!!!!!!!!!!

RangerMike is wise. Very wise. Read his post, until memorized. Not just because I respect his opinion but because it is evidenced in my own interactions.
Cologne for instance. VERY important. So is the application. 1 less spray then you think brah. And nothing popular or cheap. Suggestions: Inner force. Hermes. Yves Saint Laurent L'Homme La Nuit De L'Homme.

Clothes are just a touch behind physical fitness. DOES NOT have to be expensive but MUST FIT PERECTLY. Shoes! Polished! Girls have 6000 pairs of shoes and they ALWAYS notice.

PASSSION!! So important! Even if it is disagreeable to their values, girls LOVE PASSION! Better that they hate you than they feel indifferent to you. Girls will sleep with guys they hate the point of view of s o long as he is PASSIONATE about himself and what he believes.

Be ****y and self-deprecating at the same time. Master that and you are in for sex. Plain and simple. Its classic push, pull.

Zekko said STREANGTH. I agree. Walk through crowds unapologetically. Be emotionally balanced. Let them talk. Identify and only offer advice if it can be surmised in one sentence. Lead and set boundaries. Just like girls sh!t test…make compliance tests.

You don’t need to have A LOT of money! Except for the wrong girls. What you do need to do though is wear identifiable brands of car, clothes (at least two items) and accouterments. Also, you need monet enough to not be cheap. Outings, smaller vacations, and larger tips for instance should always be in the budget.

Grooming DEATAIL! Again, just like shoes, chicks notice.

Mystery is great but delicate. It is a skill and a variable. Some girls love to know next to nothing. Girls that really like you though want a little more. Key is…Just don’t puke everything at once. Its easy to do by following this: Let them talk! Just keep pointing back to them. And…. Be interested. I once heard someone around here say ”Pretend you are a FBI agent looking for intel”

Hair. Ugh. I am bald. I have been since I am 19. It is a drawback, no doubt. Yet, you know what, once I open my mouth, it no longer matters. It only matters in a lineup. Once you open your mouth, have a deeper voice and show no insecurities, they love it. My baldness becomes endearing.

At the end of it all…Atom Smasher said it best. The MOST essential is fitness. First for yourself, and second because its looks good.

Everything else will follow. You cannot apply a good inner frame to a weak outer structure. Its for all intents and purpose impossible.

 

[Top Of The Game]

I approve of this post. You also need:

1. To learn to conquer your fear in life especially of women
2. To learn how to become a confident male
3. To learn how to become a confident leader
4. To learn how to present yourself and sell yourself as a winner at all times
5. To learn to dress in a manner that presents you at your best
6. To learn how to hold a decent conversation with a woman
7. To learn how to fcuk the holy **** out of a woman
8. To learn how the game is really played and become a winner at playing.

How's that for a good start.

 

[Atom Smasher]

How's that for a good start.

Excellent.