"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Distant Light

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Since I started getting better I've started to realize numerous things about this site that made me wonder many things. I always tryed to wonder why most guys leave this site and end up posting on mASF. (shezz,Walden...) Also keep note when I talk about having game I don't mean able to get 1 or 2 girls in the course of a year. I mean you can go out and expect to atleast get a kiss from the girls you approach or if your real good able to consistently fuvk girls.

So I just have a few questions
1. Where do you go to approach?

Many people seem certain places are tougher to sarge than others and I've started to realize it depends on what your used to. Like me I can be on the streets sarging but I think if you were to throw me into a party or club I doubt I could game anything.

2. Try to give in detail on how your game is what it consist of?

I've seen alot of poor advice and sometimes wonder how do some of you guys actually pickup. Most of the stuff I see around here are stuff that won't get you laid but get you into a nice conversation with a girl. Reason I would like it as detailed as possible is because this site has alot of bad advice and its hard to find the good stuff.

3. How many times a week do you go sarging?

This is another thing that I realized, no one including myself posts Informational FRs. I mean if your going to post a FR about only what happens its basically like your braggin about alittle thing that happened. I would recommend the format that tokyoPUA uses because the people who usually follow that format your able to learn some stuff rather than reading it for entertainment. The other reason I ask this is because once again alot of people are are giving advice when they don't even field test what they say.

4. Honestly if you were to go out right now would you be able to atleast get a kiss from a girl? also do you believe that if you go out sarging right now you can get a lay?

I ask this because the advice that some people give they would swear that this is the route to go but in reality there not using it there damn self or they are using it and not really getting no success.

I didn't want to mix my answers with this post so I will post my answers after. But I really wanted to post this because I'm starting to see why some people tell me "why do you still post at SS" or "everyone on SS are KJs"
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Distant Light said:
So I just have a few questions
1. Where do you go to approach?
Typical places, anywhere around my local area, malls, libraries. I'm a day sarger, not a night sarger, if I do sarge.


Distantlight said:
2. Try to give in detail on how your game is what it consist of?

I've seen alot of poor advice and sometimes wonder how do some of you guys actually pickup. Most of the stuff I see around here are stuff that won't get you laid but get you into a nice conversation with a girl. Reason I would like it as detailed as possible is because this site has alot of bad advice and its hard to find the good stuff.
I'm working on that part. Probably still on newbie mission phase.

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3. How many times a week do you go sarging?
As many times as practicably possible.

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4. Honestly if you were to go out right now would you be able to atleast get a kiss from a girl? also do you believe that if you go out sarging right now you can get a lay?

No, I dont think I can get a g/k/f-close sarging, maybe a contact close though.

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I didn't want to mix my answers with this post so I will post my answers after. But I really wanted to post this because I'm starting to see why some people tell me "why do you still post at SS" or "everyone on SS are KJs"
I've read through mASF, the more boards the merrier. Use all the information at your disposal if you can use it, why not?
 

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1. Following places I approach and have approached girls at:
School
Street
Stores(bookstores,foodcourts,etc)
Mall

2. My game comes mainly from the following people...(Other people i've taken stuff from but just don't remember them)

InnerGame
Tylerdurden (some good stuff on innergame)
Badboy (Greatest innergame)
Shark (Matrix theory)

Structure (The structures that I use for example A1A2A3, etc going from point A to point B)
Mystery (Myster Method)
Tylerdurden (RSD Crew and there structure)
Woodhaven (Natural Game)

Styles (Based on the way there game is and there whole thinking when it comes to gaming girls. Since certain parts of me act similar to the following one way or the other)
Bradp (I like his style and use some of his game)
A2damir (A natural who post on mASF, no one does C&F and well as he does and thats what I mainly use from him besides his great mindset)
Tylerdurden (The way that he acts when gaming is pretty good and his whole way of thinking when it comes to gaming is good)

Well mix that all up and thats what I am. Usually done in a very happy high energy type of way. I don't use much canned material anymore, only if I'm bored and want to play game. (Yep I know most of the canned games) I'm more like a I don't care type of person so I just go out there head first and have as much fun out of everything I do. I only use elements from the structures and what I call elements are stuff like C&F, push/pull, compliance, etc. I just mix it all up with the sturctures in mind. Then i use the other posts that don't fit as elements or inner game, more like theories to smooth out my game.

I use shocker openers (bradp) opinion openers and sometimes direct openers for natural game. My game consist of 3 parts, Attraction material, comfort building material, and sex material (ya all my sex techniques that I've come acrossed or find to work good for me)

I'm a Social proof wh0re and love doing jealousy plotlines even though I find you can over value yourself to hb7s and stuff because it has happen to me a few times.

My Sticking points are:
-Mindset (If I am down or something I won't even bother going out or even think about approaching, even though this is rare for me because I seem to always be happy it is still a sticking point)
-Limiting belief that the church girls and ones that are nice, act to good to like sex.
-Phone Game, I hated it and still do but now I get the numbers before if I couldn't insta date or couldn't get the lay in the same day I would just let it go. Now I'm starting to do more phone game
-Logistics, I need to work around this, this is the biggest reason why I don't get as much lays as I should.

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Usually only 2 days that I actually go out purposely to sarge and if i find anyone attractive on the street and have time I will approach.

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I can go out and get a kiss, but I doubt I can get a lay due to logistics problems
 
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