Disappearing IL Online

[al77]

I had some reponses to my online profile, I talked to some women for for some time over email (3-10) emails... but, nearly 99% of women bail on me in a very weird way when I suggest to meet:

Me: Lets get together....
She: Sounds good.....
Me: XXXX would be a good place to meet..
She: yeah, why dont you call me at YYYY?

I called at 9pm and 10 pm, after a day or two again at 9 and 10pm., she never picked up the phone and never return my message. After a week I wrote her "Hey how was your weekend?"
She: fine... I am sorry I was busy blah blah..feel free to call me, ..
Me: Ok, I'll call you after 9pm on wednsady
She: ok.
I called her, and she didn't picky up the phone.
NEXT..... (but why??? why her IL dropped so low??? why she gave me her phone number when I didn't even askd for it and then she din't want to talk?)

Another woman:

Me: Lets get together......
She: Sounds good......
Me: XXXX would be a good place to meet..
She: yeah, that's nice.

But she didnt confirm the date, and didn't reply anymore.
After a week she sent "Oh I was busy... travelled to YYY for work"
Me: Ok, Lets get together......
She:...never replied.

What the heck is going on? What do I do so wrong that when I attempt to meet her, her IL drops so low that she gradually
disappear???

Any advice how to improve it?

 

[squirrels]

If she's not answering the phone at ALL for you, maybe her IL wasn't as high as you thought.

I'd NEXT this one, bro.

 

[Nexxus]

that's why I try not to get hooked online

 

[Hellboy]

Yea it's too dangerous for a girl to meet a guy online and they know it. They will be thinking "what's wrong with this guy that he can't meet a girl for real?" And to be honest, you should be asking the same question of them.

 

[italostud]

Bro, you should be meeting most of your women in REAL LIFE. If you really wanna use online for pickups, keep the ratio at like 80% real life 20% online.

 

[Albion4]

You're first mistake "Why don't we get together?" Desperate desperate desperate!!! Give her a reason to want to pick up the phone. If a chick writes me on some dating site, match.com for instance, I will immediatly read her profile. Then when I write back I mention something about her profile in a humourous way. For instance, if she writes, "I like Reeces Peanut Butter Cups" I might write back, "Oh so you're looking to get my chocolate in your peanutbutter?" But you have to judge her sense of humor by her profile. That response might harbor negative comments from the lady you're trying to write.

-Al

 

[al77]

Originally posted by Hellboy
They will be thinking "what's wrong with this guy that he can't meet a girl for real?"

And where are you supposed to meet women if you move to a new city and barely new anyone there? Unless you do 1000000
approches on streets... well, online is a place to find single available women.
How many approaches you have to make to get a date? I estimate it is about 500-1000 unless you like similar to Brad Pitt.

 

[al77]

Originally posted by italostud
Bro, you should be meeting most of your women in REAL LIFE.

You do real life approaches.. what is yoru statistics? How many approache syou gotta do in order to get one date? Note: a date, not her phone number.

 

[al77]

Originally posted by Albion4
You're first mistake "Why don't we get together?" Desperate desperate desperate!!!

Give her a reason to want to pick up the phone.

C'mon. I said "Lets get together".. where do you see anythign desperate???? You add "why" to what I said by the way.
Anyway, how do you say it - how do you get her from onlie to a real date?

 

[italostud]

Originally posted by al77
You do real life approaches.. what is yoru statistics? How many approache syou gotta do in order to get one date? Note: a date, not her phone number.

Well, you're quote of 500-1000 is what I'd expect if I was doing pickups while chewing on some dog turd.

For a date, sometimes it's like 3 out of 5. Sometimes maybe 2 out of 5 or something.

It's not that hard man.

Remember, before about 15 years ago, the whole internet thing wasn't around(ok geeks, I know it was, but not like it is now). And guess what? People still hooked up!!!! In Real LIFE!! Can u believe that?

 

[frivolousz21]

you become extrememly self confident...to the point where ur sure of ur self about 95 percent of the time..or higher.

once you do this...it will all fall into place..but to many guys here are about 20 percent confident..instead of Self improvement..they improve there out status not in status!

you cannot always control whats around you..near as much as you can control ur inner game.


you say 500 pickups and you get a date?


it shouldnt take you more than 10..unless u run into bad luck..then 15.



good luck

and try myspace.com

if your looking to hook up online.

and dont ever say **** about the online hookup..just do it like its normal..when u meet her dont act all nervous or talk about how this is wierd..just be a pimp..and it will take over..quik

 

[al77]

Originally posted by italostud
Well, you're quote of 500-1000 is what I'd expect if I was doing pickups while chewing on some dog turd.
For a date, sometimes it's like 3 out of 5.

And guess what? People still hooked up!!!! In Real LIFE!! Can u believe that?

No way! )
Well... here is statistics from week1: approx 50% of women just smirk in return to my "Hi" or "hello". Approx 20% were just scared sort of judging by her reaction. that leaves about 30% who didn't mind to say Hi back...

Online out of 200 emails I got less than 20 replies. Guess how many dates? One. and this when all online women are single.
In real life not all single...so the ratio should be even higher than 1 to 200.

15 years ago, women were not earning that much and were eager to meet men. Now it all chnaged, they don't give a sh*t about average looking guys, they have money, so now they want only hot guys.
I have read abotu some guys here who had success. Now I am thinking it was not due to their confidence or great pickup line...
it was mostly about their looks.

Anyway, can anyone share the success ratio for real worl approaches, i.e. approached 100 women, got 10 phone numbers, and most important - went to 2 dates - as an example.

 

[frivolousz21]

15 years ago, women were not earning that much and were eager to meet men. Now it all chnaged, they don't give a sh*t about average looking guys, they have money, so now they want only hot guys.

thats a mis-informed statement..

you are just upset...you need to take control

 

[al77]

Originally posted by frivolousz21
you become extrememly self confident..
you say 500 pickups and you get a date?
it shouldnt take you more than 10..unless u run into bad luck..then 15.
and try myspace.com

Probably you are right about 10-15 for you: I am 30 and in my age range (25-35) there is not many women who will date a date who a) approach her on a street b) who do not earn big $$ c) or at least who do not look like Brad Pitt.
Girl in their early 20 are single mostly and love to go crazy and party. Sure, if you can offer her some hints about that... she'll go out with you.

Anyway, what is you ratio? 10-15 approches for one date?

 

[Albion4]

There is absolutly nothing wrong with meeting people online. I do it all the time.

Don't listen to these fools. After all, your ultimate goal is to meet them in person anyway, isn't it? So there's your real life. You should always take every opportunity to meet new people whether it's live or memorex. Those people who skip one way because they think they're too cool to meet people that way are just missing out.

 

[al77]

Originally posted by Albion4
There is absolutly nothing wrong with meeting people online. I do it all the time.

So lets get practial: when it is tim eto get her from online on a date what do you exactlky say to her?
"Lets get togther"? Do you always call her before the first date?
At what time do you call her? How many times per day?

 

[frivolousz21]

Probably you are right about 10-15 for you: I am 30 and in my age range (25-35) there is not many women who will date a date who a) approach her on a street b) who do not earn big $$ c) or at least who do not look like Brad Pitt.

a. i agree..but there is a ton of places to go

b. I dont agree

c. thats pure bull****



honestly..of the last 10 girls ive approached....8 in person 2 online..ive had atleast 1 date with each.....and kissed them all.

I am 5 7 155-160.....when u realize its inner game ull be set