"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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This is my first post here on the forum. I've read a lot of the articles on the site and I was suprised to find so much valuable information on dating. I thought I would try my luck in the forum on getting some relationship advice.

I've known the girl in question as an acquintance for a few years, but just in the past 2 months we've started hanging out once or twice a week. To make a long story short I've really taken a big liking to this girl. Actually I've never liked a girl as much as I do her. We have a great time when we hang out and it's uncanney how much we have in common. The only problem is she is really shy and I am too and we can never seem to move to the next level. Since I'm the guy I need to make the first move. How do i go about this with such a non-flirty, conservative girl
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Suck it up, you're the man. You have to make the move, or it isn't going to go anywhere.
 

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Originally posted by Lesterchester
This is my first post here on the forum. I've read a lot of the articles on the site and I was suprised to find so much valuable information on dating. I thought I would try my luck in the forum on getting some relationship advice.

I've known the girl in question as an acquintance for a few years, but just in the past 2 months we've started hanging out once or twice a week. To make a long story short I've really taken a big liking to this girl. Actually I've never liked a girl as much as I do her. We have a great time when we hang out and it's uncanney how much we have in common. The only problem is she is really shy and I am too and we can never seem to move to the next level. Since I'm the guy I need to make the first move. How do i go about this with such a non-flirty, conservative girl
These shy girls are always an impregnable wall !

I just had a shy g/f and left her because she was as slow as hell when it came time to please her man .... I would kiss, hug, kino her .... she was just too up tight ....I wanted a lot more physical of a relationship and she didnt; however, she was very loyal

if you want a sexual relationship, I say to start turning up the heat and see what happens ; if she flakes ... move on to another ho

If you want a relationship (just a lil smoochin' every now and then) , just keep doing what you've been doing ... believe me , she wont ever leave u alone ... once u establish that friendship with that shy girl, and then b/f and g/f status ... she'll be committed

-Peace out ... H-Town
 

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Not being a perv, but I ( we) would need more info to base a true answer off of this situation... I'm pretty new to this site, but am nowhere new to romance.....

First, I'd say, what HAVe you done?? kissing holding hands, caressing, what??? ( you really don't need to answer me though, I'll go as if I have this info)

secondly, what do you consider the next step? I'll take it from the info, that you are just hanging out... if she's around you more that means she has interest... so, this is one thing that EVERYONE should be aware of, WOmen LOVE to talk. strike up a conversation with her about your interest in her... but show confidence in yourself about it...maintain positive eyecontact, reaching out to hold her hand while you are talking to her ( or any woman) will show her that you are attracted, and sensitive to her feelings.... amongst other things. SEE the DJ bible glossary page on KINO.... ALSO< by first conversing about it, you will almost certainly ascertain whether or not she is interested in you.... and another thing, most women will get a heightened state of arrousal just out of what you say, and how you say it... Not trying to boast, but I've been able to get women to climax just through gentle kisses on the mouth and talking to them, a few have even had multiple orgasms this way, and WHOA it is amazing to watch a girl in that state, fully clothed, and that turned on by what you say....
Third, and this is the mistake that ALMOST every man has made at least ONCE, if not more, don't be too eager... (too forceful) especially if this girl is shy, she's prolly not that experienced... TAKE your time, and your patience will pay off.
 

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thanks

Yeah, great advice. I'm used to girls who flirt a lot to, and this one doesn't. She is very reserved.
I've been trying to plan out an approach
that will ensure we hook up when the time is right without moving to fast. Or maybe she wants to move fast?? It's hard
to tell. I would just hate to lose this one because I think she might be the one.
Thanks again for the tips, You'll probably see another post as things develop!
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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