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Difference between soft ghosting and hard ghosting?

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Whats the difference between the two? I'm trying to move on after getting rejected and toyed by a chick in my class. I can't really do no contact as she's in all my classes and she still texts me every 1-2 days but its making it really hard to move on and forget about it. The pain just keeps on resurfacing. This girl has made me feel at the lowest point in my life so far. My grades have slipped tremendously because of all the drama and crap I have been through with this girl.
 

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Delete her number and block it. Tell her not to contact you again. Focus on your school work.
 

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El Payaso said:
Delete her number and block it. Tell her not to contact you again. Focus on your school work.
Can't really do that. She's in all my classes and sometimes I need to work with her in labs or in group work. Otherwise believe me, it would have already been deleted and blocked.
 

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Pay her no attention. Get yourself back on track.

If you must interact with her, do so as a business acquaintance you have do deal with though you'd rather not.

No explanations, no wistful looks... You have more important things to do.
 

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Don't delete and block her number. That's nearly impossible to do. I would say to go soft ghost is to never initiate contact. You have to act like you don't care and you certainly don't want to be this chicks friend. There will be times where you have to not answer back the text messages. Do that when she is making small talk. Never look her way in class and when your about to leave put on some headphones, keep your head straight and walk out the door.

You can't be a doormat for this chick which is where she's keeping you at. She rejected you and now she text you every 1-2 days? I wouldn't even hang out with her after class. Maintain that your busy.

Only talk to a chick to get with her. Don't believe in the whole hype of being friends long term first. Hardly works. Work on getting other dames numbers. Never ever focus on one girl...
 

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Danger said:
Soft-ghosting is what you do with a woman who really isn't showing interest. Really you only do this when she is beyond your current skill level at gaming.

Hard-ghosting is reserved for anyone that is LJBFing you or that fvked you over, or is something who is really fvking with your head.

The difference is, with a soft-ghost, you can restart it up one day in the future when you have built yourself up to where you need to be game-wise.

I would consider this one a hard-ghost since she is fvking you up so much.
She was initially showing interest but then I ****ed it up due to lack of experience. My best friend tells me she likes me and stuff but due to her having a lot more experience in dating then me, she is beyond my skill level at the moment, he told me to go get some more experience and then later try again. I went out on 1 date with her but I ****ed that up by failing to escalate and being nervous.
 

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thunder_god said:
She was initially showing interest but then I ****ed it up due to lack of experience. My best friend tells me she likes me and stuff but due to her having a lot more experience in dating then me, she is beyond my skill level at the moment, he told me to go get some ore experience and then later try again. I went out on 1 date with her but I ****ed that up by failing to escalate and being nervous.
What did the both of you expect to happen on the 1st date? What happen?
 

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What did the both of you expect to happen on the 1st date? What happen?
It was sort of a last minute thing. I blew her off when she called me after class because I was pissed that she didn't text or talk to me at all in school. All those emotions and **** was ****ing up my brain and I couldn't control it plus I was kind of ready to move on then she unexpectedly called me to ask me how my day was. Anyways I called my buddy and he told me the error in my ways, so I tried to fix the situation. I texted her back asking her what time she got off work and if she wanted to grab a bite to eat, since she mentioned she wanted to borrow my notes that I took in class. Anyways from her response back, she sounded mad and said I shouldn't make plans with her because she doesn't know when she is going to get off work. Then about an hr later, she calmed down and made some bull**** excuse about her boss leaving early and that she is going to leave soon.

I picked up on that and made a bs excuse that I forgot something at school, then she replied back and said she also forgot something at school. Anyways she later asks me to go for drinks but after I came to school said she can do it later but needs to study for 3 hrs first because she is behind and told me to study with her. I was already tired as it was as I only slept for 2 hrs the night before and then her asking me to study for 3hrs pretty much killed all the energy I had. Anyways I didn't even see it as a date, but my buddy later told me that was a date. So we go out to the bar, and we talk but I'm not my usually self that is playful, teasing, and flirty with her. There wasn't any physical contact as in the past and the date just felt awkward. I wanted to go for the kiss but everything seemed like a mess.

Anyways a few days later we talk over text and she tells me she thought I was mad at her or something and that because I was looking at my watch, it made her feel like I didn't want to be there so she ended the date. I was actually nervous so I looked at my watch a few times, I know stupid, but I didn't know what to do and I was super tired so my brain just didn't have anymore energy to talk. After that, things haven't been the same. She seems more distance now and doesn't text as often and now her texts only involve school stuff.
 

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El Payaso said:
Delete her number and block it. Tell her not to contact you again. Focus on your school work.
Yeah agreed. Ditch her ass. I had a girl who was a hoe and behaved like her and I refused to acknowledge her text and sat away from her.
 

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Yeah agreed. Ditch her ass. I had a girl who was a hoe and behaved like her and I refused to acknowledge her text and sat away from her.
Do you guys not understand that he sees her almost every day? There's no way that works.

Concerning your first date, it didn't sound like it went to well. I'm not quite sure she sees you as anything but a coed friend to have. Everything seems to be school related and she's not showing you much personal attention. If a chick liked you, she would want to willingly hang out with you. Granted, some people are busy but she seems to be too much into games.

All this being said, I would give it one last try and then virtually go soft ghost. Ask her one more time to have a dinner and talk about things you guys never had. You have to throw in a surprise. Change it up. If she can't commit to a hangout, then you know where you stand...
 

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Danger said:
Soft-ghosting is what you do with a woman who really isn't showing interest. Really you only do this when she is beyond your current skill level at gaming.

Hard-ghosting is reserved for anyone that is LJBFing you or that fvked you over, or is something who is really fvking with your head.

The difference is, with a soft-ghost, you can restart it up one day in the future when you have built yourself up to where you need to be game-wise.

I would consider this one a hard-ghost since she is fvking you up so much.
I'm kind of interested with the different on how these work.

Some girl, she seems to only message me when she wants to. She is weird...

She wants to chill, and I said alright -- we agreed for the one night but she never talked about it yet. She would text me, I'd keep it VERY limited and she would act like she didn't get my 'hello.'

She called me 12:55AM and 1:04AM lol.

She has all of these guys on her wall, and kind of seem's like a hoe. Haha. She is bisexual, and is always wanting 'girl' friends.

So I kind of went cold on her, not replying or anything. And it seems to just give her more interest. But am I hard-ghosting?

OR, do I need to soft-ghost - which is basically kind of showing her non-interest. I feel like right now, I'm hard-ghosting, and won't be able to bring this friendship back. She is definitely interested... she said "Is it strange that I am intrigued by you?"

I am replacing my clutch in the car, which should be done soon so I'm kinda wishing she can cooperate with my schedule.
 

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lover4721 said:
I'm kind of interested with the different on how these work.

Some girl, she seems to only message me when she wants to. She is weird...

She wants to chill, and I said alright -- we agreed for the one night but she never talked about it yet. She would text me, I'd keep it VERY limited and she would act like she didn't get my 'hello.'

She called me 12:55AM and 1:04AM lol.

She has all of these guys on her wall, and kind of seem's like a hoe. Haha. She is bisexual, and is always wanting 'girl' friends.

So I kind of went cold on her, not replying or anything. And it seems to just give her more interest. But am I hard-ghosting?

OR, do I need to soft-ghost - which is basically kind of showing her non-interest. I feel like right now, I'm hard-ghosting, and won't be able to bring this friendship back. She is definitely interested... she said "Is it strange that I am intrigued by you?"

I am replacing my clutch in the car, which should be done soon so I'm kinda wishing she can cooperate with my schedule.
Your not hard ghosting in my opinion. Your still keeping her around with some limited contact. With the op in this thread, I think he wants a LTR. It sounds like you want to bang this chick. Not sure. But you mentioned the word "friendship" and I feel your doomed already. Either get with her or next her my man.
 

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Your not hard ghosting in my opinion. Your still keeping her around with some limited contact. With the op in this thread, I think he wants a LTR. It sounds like you want to bang this chick. Not sure. But you mentioned the word "friendship" and I feel your doomed already. Either get with her or next her my man.
Haha I didn't know what to call this -- so I said 'friendship'. She is definitely not looking at me as a friend - it is definitely more. Blows my phone up, calls me 'love' and 'cutie'.

She is the one with limited contact - I'm not contacting her. So I think she might feel as if I'm sending a hint of "I'm not interested."

Every needy ass guy kills her with messages, and it's a turn off. She see's them as friends - being she is bisexual.

But, it's not even that. Every time I reply, she stops replying. It's almost like she is screwing around with me, messaging and thinking "Oh, I have him whenever I want."

So I stopped replying last night (I replied with hello, and she said my name, as if she never got my message) and then she called me twice lol.
So I'm trying to gauge her interest level since when she added me on a site, I didn't message her like any other guy. I played it like I didn't care, so I'm trying to keep this in the relationship. :p

I want to meet, yes. But I feel like she is using me.
 

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Nickface said:
Do you guys not understand that he sees her almost every day? There's no way that works.

Concerning your first date, it didn't sound like it went to well. I'm not quite sure she sees you as anything but a coed friend to have. Everything seems to be school related and she's not showing you much personal attention. If a chick liked you, she would want to willingly hang out with you. Granted, some people are busy but she seems to be too much into games.

All this being said, I would give it one last try and then virtually go soft ghost. Ask her one more time to have a dinner and talk about things you guys never had. You have to throw in a surprise. Change it up. If she can't commit to a hangout, then you know where you stand...
She initially was showing me big time personal attention like 3 weeks ago. She was always shoulder bumping into me, tickling me, coming into my personal space. One time I told her " why are you coming so close to me" and she then moved even closer to me. Also she told me several times in the past that she found it hot and cute that I never kissed a girl before and that she wanted to kiss me. This was over the phone of course. I accidentally told her this before when I wasn't interested in her back in the fall. She was texting me like crazy during the holidays and calling me. Anyways all that magic seems to have died down now. She still calls me but its much less frequent like 1-2 times a week and its about school only now. Anyways I think she's a lost cause, so I guess its time to move on. I had only wished I had way more experience and perhaps things might have been different, but I now see the error in my ways and intend on getting more experience once my school courseload dies down so I never **** up like this again in the future and let this ever happen again.
 

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Haha I didn't know what to call this -- so I said 'friendship'. She is definitely not looking at me as a friend - it is definitely more. Blows my phone up, calls me 'love' and 'cutie'.

She is the one with limited contact - I'm not contacting her. So I think she might feel as if I'm sending a hint of "I'm not interested."

Every needy ass guy kills her with messages, and it's a turn off. She see's them as friends - being she is bisexual.

But, it's not even that. Every time I reply, she stops replying. It's almost like she is screwing around with me, messaging and thinking "Oh, I have him whenever I want."

So I stopped replying last night (I replied with hello, and she said my name, as if she never got my message) and then she called me twice lol.
So I'm trying to gauge her interest level since when she added me on a site, I didn't message her like any other guy. I played it like I didn't care, so I'm trying to keep this in the relationship. :p

I want to meet, yes. But I feel like she is using me.
So I do think your handling the right way. This chick and just about every other girl out there has guys constantly hitting them up, playing the clingy card. You have to remain distance to have any chance and to remain "mysterious"

You have to try to cut out all the small talk business. If she asked you about something meaningless like how was your day, or what you up to, choose to not answer or give one word answers. Ask her to hang out one time and let your actions do the work on that date. Key is getting you guys 1-1 and showcasing your body language.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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thunder_god said:
She initially was showing me big time personal attention like 3 weeks ago. She was always shoulder bumping into me, tickling me, coming into my personal space. One time I told her " why are you coming so close to me" and she then moved even closer to me. Also she told me several times in the past that she found it hot and cute that I never kissed a girl before and that she wanted to kiss me. This was over the phone of course. I accidentally told her this before when I wasn't interested in her back in the fall. She was texting me like crazy during the holidays and calling me. Anyways all that magic seems to have died down now. She still calls me but its much less frequent like 1-2 times a week and its about school only now. Anyways I think she's a lost cause, so I guess its time to move on. I had only wished I had way more experience and perhaps things might have been different, but I now see the error in my ways and intend on getting more experience once my school courseload dies down so I never **** up like this again in the future and let this ever happen again.
You do have a good attitude with this. Man if she said she wanted to kiss you, that would drive me to make a move. You let a bunch of time pass from then till now. Why don't you just give her an ultimatum and tell her to be with me or go our own ways. Your going to have your heart broken day in and day out because you see her so much. You don't have the benefit of not seeing her. I just feel like you may regret it if you never make that move. To each it's own, but either way just remain cool and don't give her leverage by feeding into her games.
 

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Nickface said:
You do have a good attitude with this. Man if she said she wanted to kiss you, that would drive me to make a move. You let a bunch of time pass from then till now. Why don't you just give her an ultimatum and tell her to be with me or go our own ways. Your going to have your heart broken day in and day out because you see her so much. You don't have the benefit of not seeing her. I just feel like you may regret it if you never make that move. To each it's own, but either way just remain cool and don't give her leverage by feeding into her games.
Well I sort of did, I asked her out again like 2 days ago to go out dancing me with me. She gave me a wishy washy answer so I take it she's no longer interested, so now I'm just trying to move on, but its very difficult considering the situation I am in. In the past, I would just cut out all contact with the person and I would be able to move on a lot easier, but in this case that's not possible. Oh ya I tried that earphone thingy last week, but she just ran up to me as I was leaving class and poked me and asked if I was avoiding her. I told her no.
 

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Walk into that class with a stern face and determined mind and talk to her only within the scope of your school work. Time to grow up and be a professional man. No cutesy chit chat, resort to all business, so you can get that good grade and put this girl and this class behind you.

You have an academic task at hand and to allow a girl to ruin things for you at this stage is detrimental to your GPA, so start getting things done.
 

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goddamn your attitude is good, youre gonna be great with some more experience

all this bullsh*t she is pulling is just power plays because she is scared which you already know subconsciously

the only defence against this crap is to force her to come to you in isolation then escalate hard and throw her out if she plays too hard to get
 
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