"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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did your dads ever give you good advice on girls?

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I'm a bit on the short side about 5'8. My dad's advice for me about girls.
" Fvck tall girls so you won't have short babies"
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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my dad just told me "dont let girls use you"
 

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My dad didnt teach me anything. as a result. Im still an AFC. Im working to get out of it though. But boy its hard
 

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mpimpin said:
I'm a bit on the short side about 5'8. My dad's advice for me about girls.
" Fvck tall girls so you won't have short babies"
that's odd because your dad is atleast part of the reason that you are on the short side
 

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Nope, none. Which was probably good for me, because it made me feel that they aren't a big deal in the grand scheme of things.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Heh,..I'm 38 and my father is 68 with Alzheimer's - I'm still waiting to have that 'talk'.

Seriously, my Dad was a terminal AFC who still, in his old age, subscribes body & soul to the Savior Mentality which he's clung to his whole life. I have to give him credit though; he was soley responsible for showing me exactly what not to do to be a Positvely Masculine Man. Once I had been psychologically trampled by women enough times to realize it was this AFC mentality that I had learned by default from him, he (and men like him) became my models for what NOT to do. It was because of him and almost all of my AFC friends who'd been hammered flat by women their whole, destroyed, lives, that I started to see the patterns in the Matrix and began picking it apart.
 

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Silverback82 said:
that's odd because your dad is atleast part of the reason that you are on the short side
Yeah True The shortness comes from his side of the family too, But he happened to have escaped that curse so I guess he thinks he isn't responsible. Doesn't really matter to me. I'm perfectly happy with my height. I don't know why people make looks such a big deal. Hasn't held me back from living life.
 

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dad: danno is this your condom
me: yeah. it is.
(akward silence)
dad: haha dont let your mom find it
 

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Somehow I wound up an AFC. My dad gave me great advice that I didn't realize was gold until I found this place. Before my mom, he would approach women and start talking to them. He told me that within a few minutes he could tell whether the women were interested enough and if he should continue. If not, he said he would simply move on the next and start talking.

He also had a "3 date rule" in which he would move on to the next girl after 3 dates. I hate to say it, but he was a badass. He had a date at like a drive in burger joint, like Sonic, and his date ran into another guy she knew and spent the whole time talking to him, so my dad told her to let him drive her home. He made her get out of his car and he left her there. LOL
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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the guys that got alot of advice from their dad at a young age probably don't need this site

my dad always had a girlfriend growing up, lost his virginity at 14 and never told me anything
 

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hell nah, but my mom tries to speak to me and i can't.. and when she asks my dad.. he can't really talk to me.. ****in wierd ass ****.. had to learn myself.. this forum has definitely helped.. but being turned down quite a bit... and picked on helped as well... now i am a ****y mother ****er.. with a little funny bone to mix in the bowl...
 

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When my Dad dropped me off at college my girlfriend and mother were with me. There was only about a two minute window when neither my mom or my conniving bytch of a g/f were not around. He said,
"Son, blondes are more fun. Brunettes are nothing but trouble. If you f_ck average looking girls you'll get a lot more *****."
I'd never heard him say anything like that before in my life. Too bad I was 'in love' the first six months of college.
 

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Most dads don't have advice to give their sons...He probably didn't know what he was doing when he met his wife. Just following his little head.

My dad asked me once..."How come you don't have a girlfriend son?"

I just replied "I dunno.."

It's sad really...Parents are supposed to teach their kids whatever they can.

Glad I felt a need to change, and found this site.
 

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Aw hell no I never got any help from my dad. Which is probably just as well, 'cause I think he's always been pretty hopeless with women. I don't think he had a girlfriend 'till he was 23 or something like that.

So no advice, no.

But at the same time, he's one of the smartest motherfvckers I've ever met, worked hard and got a scholarship to university cause his parents couldn't afford it and genuinely follows his passions.

And there's more to life than getting your end off in every girl you meet.

Some good advice would have helped though :rolleyes:
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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