Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Did She Get The Hint?

MurdocNiccals

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Do you think she understands what I am after?

[You]
19:32
lol :p
yeah btw I think you can come over the saturday after this one (not this one because that's xmas day I think aha)


[Her]
19:38
yeah it is haha, unless you wanna spend xmas with me ;) and okay who else is going :)?


[You]
19:40
nah you'd nick all the turkey :/
and oh i can ask others to come then :/
it can be one big party I guess lawl :/


[Her]
19:43
hahaa no i wouldnt :p no idm who comes :D
up to you


[You]
19:44
haha nah it's okay I understand girl-language :/ I'll ask some others then


[Her]
19:46
no honestly
idm :D


[You]
19:47
oh so that wasnt a gentle rejection? :/
haha :p


[Her]
19:51
NO
bloody hell murdoc :p
Or do you think she thought I meant rejection as in her not wanting to hang out with me as friends? I'm not sure if she understands I want to see her as more than friends.

No need to call me beta or anything :p just wondering whether she got the message, and whether you think she's interested.

I instantly noticed the "who else is coming?" and pounced on it because I've heard that means they're not interested.


Thanks! :)
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Kailex

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I think you were the one who didn't get it.

She asked once, which means that she is probably foggy on your intention.
Had you nipped that in the butt the first time, it'd be unnecessary for YOU to keep bringing it up.

You said it once again even after saying "I understand girl language".

First of all, don't verbalize that.
Your job isn't to understand it, it's to work around it, work with it... whatever, but you don't tell them about fight club.

Second, if she asks if anyone else is going, you clearly state that it's a 1 on 1 affair in a way that exudes sensuality and comfort at the same time. You don't want to come off as a creep but you want to let her know that the interest is there... that this isn't a friendly affair.


And what's with all of this?

:/

STOP THAT.
I know what the face means, but it just communicates insecurity.
 

MurdocNiccals

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Thanks for the reply...

She knows I have interest in her as more than a friend before I asked her to come over. I've been flirting with her a bit lately, and she seems receptive... Here's another example where I am not sure of something (I think I understand it but I keep picking out ambiguity in things):


Me: il watch one of ur girly movies with u if u do your hair and nails and stuff nice :)
and as much as id lyk to suggest some other things ur too young xD

Her: I'm not too young :eek:
She's not too young I'm just messing with her because she's 7 months younger than me.

I think she's hinting that she'd be up for the "other things" I want her to do, but then at the same time I dunno whether she just doesn't like me saying she's too young :s

God that actually sounds quite gay out of context. Luckily she knows me quite well and is WELL AWARE I am straight :p

Either way she's coming over in a week :)
 

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MurdocNiccals said:
Do you think she understands what I am after?
I don't think even I understand what it is you're after.


Why are you talking to her like that? You asked "Did she get the hint?".

Why are you hinting to being with? That's what women do.


This thread reminds me of Falcon25's "I can't believe some of the threads I'm reading lately" thread.



Women hint,give signals,tiptoe,and dance around the issue.

Why are YOU doing all that? If your goal is a date,then just ask for a date. Just come straight out with it.



You know how I show my interest to girls? After a bit of flirting and rappaport,I just go like this.....


me:are you married
her:NO.
me:You got a boyfriend?
her:NO.

me:Good,then we can go out.


I'm not joking either,I'm serious. The girl I said that to,you think she got the "hint"?


Kailex was right. You're unknowingly,unintentionally communicating insecurity.



And this thing she said here....."bloody hell murdoc",almost makes it seem like she has a bit of frustration with you,like she "senses" that you may like her,but you're holding back from just openly expressing that interest out of FEAR of her possibly rejecting you.



If you don't stop tiptoeing and tapdancing around the issue,which is you WANTING TO DATE HER OR WANTING A SEXUAL INTERACTION WITH HER,she's going to lose interest out of sheer frustration.



MurdocNiccals said:
I'm not sure if she understands I want to see her as more than friends.
Well that's YOUR FAULT.


Women are EMOTIONAL. They go more by how they FEEL around you than by what you say. If you're giving off vibes of nervousness,fear,and insecurity....even UNINTENTIONALLY,she's going to reject you because you made her feel uncomfortable.



It's better to be a cool,calm,relaxed JERK than a nervous,knee-knocking,sweating palmed "nice guy".



MurdocNiccals said:
just wondering whether she got the message, and whether you think she's interested.
She sounds like she may be interested,but she seems more frustrated than anything else. That means that if there is interest there,you're stalling it out. It's like she's been interested for a while,but you're lack of aggressiveness is making her patience wear thin.



You better stop playing games and get serious,or it's Friendzone City.
 

LuisGarcia10

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Look, I am going to save you hours of trying to anaylse msn speak, or whaterver ****ty IM you are using.

Assuming this is a girl you know in real life, and not met online or whatever. THEN PHONE HER.

You will hear it in her voice, it will be far more natural, stop using IMing for important stuff and especially stop making stupid emoticon smiley faces, it's like being back at primary school ffs.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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FUCK! This is why I hate texting. None of this ambivalent shit would happen if guys would just have the balls to call a girl up and ask her out for a specific date, time and place.

The chick is obviously interested but you're too dense to see it. What you do next is grab the phone, punch in her digits, call her and ask her out. You won't wonder anymore "whether she got the hint" or not. She either says "Yes" or she says "No."

Quite simple, really.
 

LuisGarcia10

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vatoloco said:
FUCK! This is why I hate texting. None of this ambivalent shit would happen if guys would just have the balls to call a girl up and ask her out for a specific date, time and place.

The chick is obviously interested but you're too dense to see it. What you do next is grab the phone, punch in her digits, call her and ask her out. You won't wonder anymore "whether she got the hint" or not. She either says "Yes" or she says "No."

Quite simple, really.
Exactly.
 
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