"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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guitaronfire411

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Hi. There's a girl at the gym that likes me -- working out close to me, trying to get my attention, etc. -- so I opened last Sunday. I opened her when she wasn't facing me (bad idea) but she turned and walked towards me, possibly with stars in her eyes. I gave her long sexually-aggressive eye contact without smiling and introduced myself with a handshake. She shook my hand, said her name and then walked away.

I assume I might have overdone the eye contact and creeped her out. Any ideas?

My buddy there thought she was enjoying speaking to me and had a smile on her face. I think she was overwhelmed with my confidence and is too inexperienced to know what to do so she walked away. Or, she could even be an attention ***** leading me on.

Thoughts?
 

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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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guitaronfire411 said:
Hi. There's a girl at the gym that likes me -- working out close to me, trying to get my attention, etc. -- so I opened last Sunday. I opened her when she wasn't facing me (bad idea) but she turned and walked towards me, possibly with stars in her eyes. I gave her long sexually-aggressive eye contact without smiling and introduced myself with a handshake. She shook my hand, said her name and then walked away.

I assume I might have overdone the eye contact and creeped her out. Any ideas?

My buddy there thought she was enjoying speaking to me and had a smile on her face. I think she was overwhelmed with my confidence and is too inexperienced to know what to do so she walked away. Or, she could even be an attention ***** leading me on.

Thoughts?
You may not want to believe this BUt she is the confident one and YOU are the one who is now full of doubts about the effectiveness of your game.

You wrote , " I assume I might have overdone the eye contact and creeped her out .... "
Yoiu did not open her so much as she opened YOU by walking right up to you , introducing herself and then walking away. That is not "inexperience" on her part - that is confidence.
Right now the game is her's because you are posting here asking for advice. I bet she is not asking her G/fs for advice on what to do next.

She created an "opening" which is what women do, and now it is your job to move towards her and get things going.

Good hunting, man..
 

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I forgot to mention that I was speaking to her from behind --- very bad, I know! -- so NO, she did not open me.

She walked towards me because she wanted to follow my voice. There is a difference.

Btw, I introduced myself, shook her hand, and she willingly told me who she was. I gamed her IMO.

My game is rusty but I know that girls don't just walk away like that. I ask questions to learn from those better than I am to improve, not out of insecurity.

I see it important now to pull way back, seeing as though I pushed the set forward and got the ball rolling. I'm NOT doing all the work.
 

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guitaronfire411 said:
I see it important now to pull way back, seeing as though I pushed the set forward and got the ball rolling. I'm NOT doing all the work.
Perhaps you are overly enamored of your 'game" and it effectiveness.
You need to ask yourself why you need to post here at all if you are on top of this ...

She has done the most positive action so far in walking TOWARD you after you spoke to her when she was facing AWAY from you . NOW it is your turn to keep the "ball rolling" because right now it is spinning BUT not rolling forward .
You have IOI"s from her I gather and the oppotunities are available to see her again soon so what is the problem ?
Just get her number and get a drink together..
 

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My main concern was that she left the set, which is usually a negative sign.

It is possible work has been getting to me (10 days in a row has been a drain). Time to relax! Thanks for the prompt replies and ass-kicking. ;)
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I realize that. I will be spinning more plates with my buddy the next time I am paid.

Best of all, I now have respect in the gym from some of the gym trainers there, who seemed to have been told something. It seems that the girl herself may have a boyfriend which is why she bailed. No problems! :D
 

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guitaronfire411 said:
Btw, I introduced myself, shook her hand, and she willingly told me who she was. I gamed her IMO.

hahahaha - when did introducing yourself become 'game'.

you know what my gut is telling me about this situation. my gut says that she was probably digging you from afar. then you introduced yourself and she was probably thinking 'this is cool. im talking to the cute guy that i always see around.'

then you pulled mr. ****y with no smile and acting all macho. to which she probably though 'great. yet another guy who is full of himself.' and walked away.
 

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guitaronfire411 said:
I realize that. I will be spinning more plates with my buddy the next time I am paid.

Best of all, I now have respect in the gym from some of the gym trainers there, who seemed to have been told something. It seems that the girl herself may have a boyfriend which is why she bailed. No problems! :D
Maybe you should forget about sets, game, and spinning plates. It makes it sound like it's a job, or some secret mission that we must carry out, when in fact, the reality of it, you are just talking to women, and getting to know them. It's really not that difficult.

Also, forget about what the gym trainers think, who cares if they have respect for you?

From this day forward, you will not see yourself, and your value, through someone else's eyes.

You are your own man. Talk to all, or any, women you are attracted to and genuinely want to get to know better. The outcome is not important. Don't think too much into this stuff. The terminology is great and all, but people take 'DJing' to far, IMO.
 

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Dude, you could have save a lot of bandwidth
if you had just flagged her sweaty ass down
and engaged her to the best of your abilities.

You're pretty caught up in yourself...make her
prove it.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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