“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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TL:DR in the buttom if you cannot endure all this text :p

Hey guys, I was pondering about something?

Can you, with good intentions, fail a flirt in 1 second?
If you are able to, then you beat me.
I did it in 2 seconds! (woaaaah......)

This is going to be *****y, whining on a internet forum about my failure love life, dawg damn it came to this, anyway.

For the past month, I have been trying to hook up with this girl. I really liked her, and I FELT the same from her as well. My mates where all "Yeah! You earn the good cash!", acting kinda jelous. I must admit it boosted my confidence.

Last night, I was texting with this exact girl. She said she was lonely and 'joked' me to come over to her. I asked if she was serious about it, and after a bit of convincing, she accepted that I could come visit her - so I did.
I went to her house, and we talked for about an hour as we usually do - no problems so far (I am doing good - yeah!)
Then we were to watch a movie, I choose a comedy, as I am afraid of horrors (I am *****, I know... I know!) and I wouldn't act girlish by choosing a 'Girl's Favorite Movie'.
Now it took me about 2/3 of the movie to get her convinced that she should lay beside me on her coach, then.. hell it went off!
About 30 seconds after we were holding hands, snuggling them together, tickling each other's palms... yeah yeah. It was grand. We smiled to each other and I felt - yeah I got this I am in this house yup-yup!
The movie ended, and it was about time I was to go home. She gave me this BIG snuggling hug, and you know what I did then?!

I KISSED HER!
yes I did!
.... on the cheek.

and that is where I failed, not that I should have kissed her with my tongue or something, because now it went from top notch, to really-really bad. She right after she pulled back, closed down her body language and was almost tapping her foot waiting for me to leave.
Shocked I left her house, and walked away with the thought: "What did I just do so bad....?"
I came home, talked to my mates, tried to analyse it, we concluded that it was barely nothing and that it would heal over night - no worries.
With great confidence I then walk over to her while having lunch break.

I did as I usually do, however she time, there was no reaction from her, as if I was not there. I then poked her in confusion and she gave me this blank look as if she looked right through me, paying no attention whatsoever.
Rejected I left the scene thinking "Was that it? Could a SIMPLE-INNOCENT kiss ruined all my past months hard work? What the...?"

Now I am here, almost challenging you to see if you can feck it up faster than I can, I give you a hooker if you have proof!

TL:DR
I met this girl, I kissed her on the neck, she ignored me, I cried, and I am entirely confused.

Thank you all!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I don't even know how to take this thread. But my head hurts now.

Are you simply asking if we have fvcked up with a girl quicker than you just did? Or are you looking for critique on what went wrong?

I'll stick with the later:

I'm hoping some of this is simply how you word things, but the count of "AFC" moves in that fairly short story was overwhelming.

Obvious issue #1 - You need more "plates". You are already so hung up on this one girl and are freaking out about this. If you had some other options, this wouldn't be anywhere near as big of a deal to you.

Obvious issue #2 - You need to learn to take charge. A girl you like, that you think likes you, texts you to come over. Why did it take "convincing" and "her accepting" you come there??? She brought it up! Take charge of the situation and get your ass over there.

She asks you to come over, you finally get there, and then you sit and talk for an hour? Did you make a move? Or did you seriously wait that hour, plus 2/3 of a movie to make your first move? And you "convinced" her to lay beside you... Mind if I ask how you convinced her?

Then once you did make a move, the furthest it got was tickling each other's palms? Why did it stop there? You still had 1/3 of a movie left!

Obvious issue #3 - You didn't give her what she wanted. That being... more than a little peck on the cheek.

"Was that it? Could a SIMPLE-INNOCENT kiss ruined all my past months hard work? What the...?"
No. It was the fact that is was ONLY a simple, innocent kiss. You needed to take charge. Initiate sexual tension. Nothing you did initiated sexual tension in the least bit. My guess is, you came off very nervous. And the "past months of hard work" comment solidifies that thinking for me.

I know this was harsh, but I'm trying to help. The thought of how this went down is making my stomach churn. If you haven't already, I recommend reading the DJ Bible on the bottom left corner of this page.
 

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By convincing her, the texting messages could be a bit like this

Me: If you are serious about your offer I am sure I would like to come visiting you for an hour or two

Girl: Don't you live quite far away? (This where I see doubt in her text)

Me: Nah, 20 min with smooth driving, it is not going to be a problem =) (attempt to convince her, that is it no problem visiting her. I might have miscommunicated my message.)

Girl: I am bit down, so I would approve a visit from you =)

Me: Alrighty-o, I will be on my way =)

Then I drove over to her.

Obvious issue #1 - You need more "plates". You are already so hung up on this one girl and are freaking out about this. If you had some other options, this wouldn't be anywhere near as big of a deal to you.

You are right, I do not have many options, I am not your usual 'Jon Juan', who is really handsome, knows his TRICKZ and so on. I must stress that I am in no way crying out loud looking out on the window and is in a bad mood. I am more in a pondering stage, wondering what the hell went wrong...

Obvious issue #2 - You need to learn to take charge. A girl you like, that you think likes you, texts you to come over. Why did it take "convincing" and "her accepting" you come there??? She brought it up! Take charge of the situation and get your ass over there.

Do you say I am to burst in saying "Now I am here! and I decide when I go home!" Or... just how D:?

She asks you to come over, you finally get there, and then you sit and talk for an hour? Did you make a move? Or did you seriously wait that hour, plus 2/3 of a movie to make your first move? And you "convinced" her to lay beside you... Mind if I ask how you convinced her?

Then once you did make a move, the furthest it got was tickling each other's palms? Why did it stop there? You still had 1/3 of a movie left!


I will be more detailed so you have more stuff to review at =)

I come over, she is having her dinner, she offers me some, I accept and we sit next to each other and small-talk, while eating. Then after I have aten up, we start the movie, she finsihes, and sits on a chair behinde me. I ask her serveal times if she doesn't want to come and lay down lay down next to, she replies "I am sitting very well here - it is no problem"
Am I here to go commando? "Get down here!"
About the 'move', should I have... kissed her? Put my arm around her? Embraced her?

You raise VERY vaild points, and I see where you are heading. I now wish you to read my replies and tell me if you still think it is the issue.

Also, I wish to ask you:
Can I repair the damage, or should I just move on?

Thank you!
 

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Last response was TL ; DR
Obvious issue: Not leading properly.

Obvious issue: Attraction is NOT logic. You cant convince her to do this and that. You're only convincing her to do those things because you dont dare do it yourself.

Why did it suddenly end? You failed a test. When you didnt kiss her after the hug, you failed.

You have lots to learn, welcome.

Now go watch a damn scary movie! (totally srs).
 

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Hm, I otherwise read the bible (although it was 3 years ago) guess it is the cycle once more :p

I spoke to my friends, and they Said i was too offensive, I trust sosuave on this :p
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Is it a bible for highschool as well?
 

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Too offensive?
I dare say that your friends dont know what they're talking about.

Pozitron said:
Is it a bible for highschool as well?
Yeah, check the stickies on HS forum.
 

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Thanks for the feedback.
I will re-read the bible, and see if I can be more 'offensive-leading' next time.

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