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Did i just get taken for a ride?

pete101

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I was on a roll, i was in a coffee place and this hot 30 something year old blonde, smoking hot was sitting next to me. i began talking to her, i just got a number before hand so my confidence was sky high. she was a flight attendant for united airlines and only staying overnight and leaving tomorrow at 2pm.

i suggested to her i take her out for a drink (really what i wanted was to go straight to her hotel room) i couldn't kino escalate in the coffee place it was open plan staff were watching bright lights, not sexy. she gives me her US digits (im based in europe) she said she hasn't slept since she flew in. i was like it's only 8pm! i suggest to her to nap for a couple hours and i'll meet her after, i told her it was a once in a life time oppportunity. she agreed. here's the kick though, when i asked for her room number i sensed she was giving me a fake one when she looked at her card, when i asked to see her phone so i could call it she said she didn't bring it with her. all of this smells of BS tbh, but she kino'd me, told me she had 2 kids, but she had no wedding ring. she gave me her phone number but i dont know if it's a real US number 431 area code??

she was loving the attention, i really felt i should have taken her outside and kissed her rather than walk her back to her hotel and insisting on doing that.

i told her i'd be back in 2 hours, and i repeated the room number, she said yeah that's it.

so i come by, go to the room it's not her. i go to the reception and ask the people for her room and to call it (i maybe should have got the room number and went straight there, if im at the door she might not kick me out) i get her on the phone and shes shocked (no surprise she gave me wrong room number!) and says she's too tired and shes in bed, she almost sounds convinced she might come out then says she's too tired... wtf.. where did i go wrong and what should i have done?

she tells me to call her in the morning, i said i wont be here in the morning, i keep saying that and she keeps saying 'call me in the morning' im thinking wtf..

then i put the phone down, i tell her i'll come up to her room and get her details. what the hell is a 431 area code.. that doesn't exist does it?

i walk out of the hotel then think, fvck i should get an email.. so i call the room again (stupid move) she didnt answer and i walk out.

how do you guys suggest i have handled it differently?

she gave me IOI's kino'd me a bit, i couldnt escalate in that place, i think i should have gone outside kissed her and escalated like that and suggested to go to her room and giv3e her a massage. escalation so important.

damn.. really. im not experienced enough to tackle these immediate lays.
 

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You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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She pretty much wasnt interested. If she was she would have accepted your offer for a drink. She dropped a hint which you missed then after that you went into major stalker mode...
 

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pete101 said:
I was on a roll, i was in a coffee place and this hot 30 something year old blonde, smoking hot was sitting next to me. i began talking to her, i just got a number before hand so my confidence was sky high. she was a flight attendant for united airlines and only staying overnight and leaving tomorrow at 2pm.

That's hot. There is something naughty about a flight attendant :) .

i suggested to her i take her out for a drink (really what i wanted was to go straight to her hotel room) i couldn't kino escalate in the coffee place it was open plan staff were watching bright lights, not sexy. she gives me her US digits (im based in europe) she said she hasn't slept since she flew in. i was like it's only 8pm! i suggest to her to nap for a couple hours and i'll meet her after, i told her it was a once in a life time oppportunity. she agreed.

Good sales pitch.

here's the kick though, when i asked for her room number i sensed she was giving me a fake one when she looked at her card, when i asked to see her phone so i could call it she said she didn't bring it with her. all of this smells of BS tbh, but she kino'd me, told me she had 2 kids, but she had no wedding ring. she gave me her phone number but i dont know if it's a real US number 431 area code??

I wouldn't have asked for her room number. That is getting too personal. You don't need it anyway. You had her phone number. You could have texted her in a few hours and met at the bar.

she was loving the attention, i really felt i should have taken her outside and kissed her rather than walk her back to her hotel and insisting on doing that.

i told her i'd be back in 2 hours, and i repeated the room number, she said yeah that's it.

Ok.. I'm reading on...

so i come by, go to the room it's not her. i go to the reception and ask the people for her room and to call it (i maybe should have got the room number and went straight there, if im at the door she might not kick me out)

Hotel staff will never (or at least should never) give out someone's room number. The most they are allowed to do is connect your call to their room if you ask for the person by name.

i get her on the phone and shes shocked (no surprise she gave me wrong room number!) and says she's too tired and shes in bed, she almost sounds convinced she might come out then says she's too tired... wtf.. where did i go wrong and what should i have done?

Hindsight is 20/20. But honestly, I think you got too aggressive by asking for her room number. If she wanted you, she would have responded to your text or voice mail on her phone, then texted you her room number if necessary.

she tells me to call her in the morning, i said i wont be here in the morning, i keep saying that and she keeps saying 'call me in the morning' im thinking wtf..

At this point, she's blowing you off.

then i put the phone down, i tell her i'll come up to her room and get her details.

Now you're bordering on stalking.

what the hell is a 431 area code.. that doesn't exist does it?

It's a new one for Manitoba, Canada. I don't think it exists in the US. It's about as fake as it gets.

i walk out of the hotel then think, fvck i should get an email.. so i call the room again (stupid move) she didnt answer and i walk out.

Now you're scaring me. Let it go.

how do you guys suggest i have handled it differently?

she gave me IOI's kino'd me a bit, i couldnt escalate in that place, i think i should have gone outside kissed her and escalated like that and suggested to go to her room and giv3e her a massage. escalation so important.

damn.. really. im not experienced enough to tackle these immediate lays.
Just walk away with the number, let her rest, text her later and see how it goes. Then invite her to the hotel bar. Drink, kino, and use the following line:

"I'm gonna go relax for a while and watch some tv. You should come up."

Take her by the hand and head for the &*$% ELEVATOR.
 

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Mike32ct said:
Just walk away with the number, let her rest, text her later and see how it goes. Then invite her to the hotel bar. Drink, kino, and use the following line:

"I'm gonna go relax for a while and watch some tv. You should come up."

Take her by the hand and head for the &*$% ELEVATOR.
but she said she didn't have her phone with her.. (that's the where i felt she must be BS'ing.. US phones dont work in europe i know that)

i knew she was exhausted especially if she's going to bed at 8pm!

the number is as fake as it gets as you said, no point me texting it?

it's definitely fake. these older women man.. they just lead you on and kino you. i honestly felt if i didnt insist on walking her back to her hotel, i could have just attempted a kiss close and seen what i would have got then take it from there?

that's smooth what you suggested.. pity the number wouldn't have worked.. in future i need to act in the now.

the number is: 431-375-**** or maybe it's a 631-375-**** i cant read her writing.

you US guys help me out, where is 631 from?

oh crap i just realised it was a 6 not a 4.. and 631 i think is where she said she was from. is the 375 a cell number?
 

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pete101 said:
but she said she didn't have her phone with her.. (that's the where i felt she must be BS'ing.. US phones dont work in europe i know that)

Some US phones do work in Europe, but it depends on which carrier she uses. If she's a flight attendant that travels internationally, odds are, she would pick a carrier that would work abroad. Plus she's not going to travel without a phone.

i knew she was exhausted especially if she's going to bed at 8pm!

the number is as fake as it gets as you said, no point me texting it?

No, please leave her alone. It's over dude.

it's definitely fake. these older women man.. they just lead you on and kino you.

Guys think older women are easier. Not necessarily. Older women have been playing the game a LONG time and know their stuff.

i honestly felt if i didnt insist on walking her back to her hotel, i could have just attempted a kiss close and seen what i would have got then take it from there?

I make it a rule to eject after number closing. If you are going to stay with a chick and pull her, there is no need to get her number (before s*x). A number close signifies the end of a sarge.

You number close a chick under one of two scenarios:

1. You can't pull her right then and there and need to walk away. (Maybe she is busy or has c*ckblocking friends.) You can text her later to meet.

2. You just had a hot ONS with her and would like to hang out again.


that's smooth what you suggested.. pity the number wouldn't have worked.. in future i need to act in the now.

the number is: 431-375-**** or maybe it's a 631-375-**** i cant read her writing.

you US guys help me out, where is 631 from?

oh crap i just realised it was a 6 not a 4.. and 631 i think is where she said she was from. is the 375 a cell number?
Just let it go man. Don't drive yourself crazy with the number stuff.

You get good credit for trying. Just fine tune your game for another time.
 
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