"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Did I do the right thing?

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A girl I used to hang out with a lot and I were supposed to hang out today. I was busy until 5:00, so we agreed she would come over when I got home. I got home and called her and said "Hey, I'm home now. You can come over now." and she said "Oh. Sorry, I already made plans with someone." and I said "You made plans over our plans?" to which she replied "Yeah, sorry..."

SO, I told her "Oh, well you're not coming over again. Talk to you later." and I hung up.
Did I do the right thing by punishing her for doing that? lol.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Good for you. I loved how you handled that. I am giving you a standing ovation now. Your response to her second class behavior was 100% perfect, but only if you don't ever contact her again, or answer her calls/texts. That's it. This one is burned and at least you get to leave with your dignity in tact; as opposed to the many chodes here who will try to use a similar situation to try to get her to hang out sometime.

Now onto what happened. Well, who knows? Who cares? The point is that she had very little interest in hanging out with you today, or anymore from now on. Don't know why. Did you hang out a lot without you making a physical move on her? If so, then she doesn't see you that way, and figured it would be more of the same. If you messed around and/or hooked up with her before, then she was showing total disregard for you. Either way, you handled it, and move on.
 

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handled it horribly imo. With a blow off like that chances are you won't get a 2nd chance

i guess you could turn it around and text her "sorry i got upset it's just that i was looking forward to seeing you i had a horrible day" ...since you guys have hung out a lot and such she'll probly forgive you and give you a 2nd shot.

it's a long shot though....if you blew her off like that simply for not her hanging out with you she probably thinks you're a creeper
 

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nightcrawler said:
it's a long shot though....if you blew her off like that simply for not her hanging out with you she probably thinks you're a creeper
Well, the thing is, man, I planned to hang out with her like a week ago and she made new plans over our plans. I don't like when people walk all over me, so yeah.
 

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Gangster Of Love said:
Your response to her second class behavior was 100% perfect, but only if you don't ever contact her again, or answer her calls/texts. That's it.
Thanks. I probably won't contact her again. She walks all over people and thinks she's a goddess or some sh!t.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Well, the thing is, man, I planned to hang out with her like a week ago and she made new plans over our plans. I don't like when people walk all over me, so yeah.
yea man but you don't need to blow up when **** doesn't go your way...and specially at a girl you're trying to bang.

get some self control dude.

text her something along the lines of what i told you...if you guys were close friends etc she might forgive you. And if she does forgive you..next time you meet her act as if nothing happend.

and stop making plans so ahead of time...matter of fact stop making plans period. Girls hate plans. Just text her spontanisouly and when she says "oh bored etc" then make plans.
 

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nightcrawler said:
handled it horribly imo. With a blow off like that chances are you won't get a 2nd chance

i guess you could turn it around and text her "sorry i got upset it's just that i was looking forward to seeing you i had a horrible day" ...since you guys have hung out a lot and such she'll probly forgive you and give you a 2nd shot.

it's a long shot though....if you blew her off like that simply for not her hanging out with you she probably thinks you're a creeper
Did you read the part where he mentions they used to hang out a lot? Now if things haven't happened, odds were they weren't. As soon as she said she blew him off, that was her way of telling him to get lost. This was not his "2nd chance", this was his 20th-40th chance.

This response reeks scarcity. Never, ever go apologizing and begging like a dog, and take the blame just for a chance at the pu$$y. As it is, any broad doing this has very little respect and/or low interest; supplicating for another chance will only put the nails on your coffin, and give away any dignity you might still have left.

OP,Now, IF, AND A HUGE IF, she begs you, the way you were adviced to do in the above response, then I might give her a chance, but she would have to make it up to you big time. I wouldn't even bother with this one. If you already tapped her, then you got something out of it. If not, you weren't anyway. Not when she's telling you she made much more important plans with somebody else.

Off course, this is my opinion; but it is the opinion of somebody who's gone through his share of $hit test and low interest women; also the opinion of somebody who's gotten and gets laid a lot. So, don't play second banana to anybody; do not tolerate that kind of disrespect.
 

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nightcrawler said:
handled it horribly imo. With a blow off like that chances are you won't get a 2nd chance

i guess you could turn it around and text her "sorry i got upset it's just that i was looking forward to seeing you i had a horrible day" ...since you guys have hung out a lot and such she'll probly forgive you and give you a 2nd shot.

it's a long shot though....if you blew her off like that simply for not her hanging out with you she probably thinks you're a creeper

This is bad advice.

If you want to see her again, the best course of action is to pretend like nothing happened.

You don't want to get all sappy, "Dawson's Creek" on her. Just put her on the back burner for a few weeks, and reach out in the future. Either way, a girl who "makes other plans" when you clearly had plans with her, is NOT worth thinking about.
 

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Did you read the part where he mentions they used to hang out a lot? Now if things haven't happened, odds were they weren't. As soon as she said she blew him off, that was her way of telling him to get lost. This was not his "2nd chance", this was his 20th-40th chance.

This response reeks scarcity. Never, ever go apologizing and begging like a dog, and take the blame just for a chance at the pu$$y. As it is, any broad doing this has very little respect and/or low interest; supplicating for another chance will only put the nails on your coffin, and give away any dignity you might still have left.

OP,Now, IF, AND A HUGE IF, she begs you, the way you were adviced to do in the above response, then I might give her a chance, but she would have to make it up to you big time. I wouldn't even bother with this one. If you already tapped her, then you got something out of it. If not, you weren't anyway. Not when she's telling you she made much more important plans with somebody else.

Off course, this is my opinion; but it is the opinion of somebody who's gone through his share of $hit test and low interest women; also the opinion of somebody who's gotten and gets laid a lot. So, don't play second banana to anybody; do not tolerate that kind of disrespect.
yea but just cuz they hang out a lot doesn't mean they were close friends.
 

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nightcrawler said:
yea man but you don't need to blow up when **** doesn't go your way...and specially at a girl you're trying to bang.

get some self control dude.

text her something along the lines of what i told you...if you guys were close friends etc she might forgive you. And if she does forgive you..next time you meet her act as if nothing happend.

and stop making plans so ahead of time...matter of fact stop making plans period. Girls hate plans. Just text her spontanisouly and when she says "oh bored etc" then make plans.
Ok, I can agree with this post a lot more.

The key is how he said what he said. If he said it calmly (I doubt it, unfortunately), and calm and controlled "Well, you won't get to hang out with me again", and just hung up, then that's one story. If he clearly came across as being affected by this and being upset, then this was the type of reaction that killed the interaction. Either way, he put her on the spot by asking straigh out if she picked the other guy over him; and she put him on the spot by just saying "yeah, sorry".

There are broads all over you. Millions. You learn and move on from this one. Unless she comes begging you like a dog. But don't count on that.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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nightcrawler said:
handled it horribly imo. With a blow off like that chances are you won't get a 2nd chance

i guess you could turn it around and text her "sorry i got upset it's just that i was looking forward to seeing you i had a horrible day" ...since you guys have hung out a lot and such she'll probly forgive you and give you a 2nd shot.

it's a long shot though....if you blew her off like that simply for not her hanging out with you she probably thinks you're a creeper

You're kidding, right?

If your buddy pissed you off and you yelled at him, apologizing and explaining your horrible day would help. With WOMEN who you are ATTRACTED to, this just makes you appear weak. And overly-sensitive.

Please don't advise people if you don't know what you're talking about.
 

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yea but just cuz they hang out a lot doesn't mean they were close friends.

Exactly, which is worse. We don't know if he's ever made a physical move on her. If he hasn't, then each time you hang out with a girl, the chance greatly diminish, due to a loss of interest, pretty much for not having the balls to escalate. If they weren't close friends, and they aren't already physical, then he's got no business just hanging out. Bad business.
 

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Ok, I can agree with this post a lot more.

The key is how he said what he said. If he said it calmly (I doubt it, unfortunately), and calm and controlled "Well, you won't get to hang out with me again", and just hung up, then that's one story. If he clearly came across as being affected by this and being upset, then this was the type of reaction that killed the interaction. Either way, he put her on the spot by asking straigh out if she picked the other guy over him; and she put him on the spot by just saying "yeah, sorry".
No, I was pretty calm. I'm always really calm and collected. Not a spaz kinda guy.
 

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No, I was pretty calm. I'm always really calm and collected. Not a spaz kinda guy.
She will respect you and you actually might have a chance at sparking attracting and turning it around, if you actually let her pursue you, or try to make contact with you. You were the straight up guy, and women have been taking advantage of your kindness. You took the first step at turning this around. Way to go!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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