Did I do the right thing when my gf insulted me?

[zekko]

Today is panels. Tomorrow it could be grave posts.

Unlikely.

What your city did to that veteran should be how all veterans are treated. A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link.

As I said, many veterans have a legitimate gripe. I'm just saying not all of them are unappreciated.

 

[corrector]

Unlikely.

Unlikely is still possible, especially in times like this.

It's also unlikely that mid-terms will be cancelled or you'll have a third term president.

But it is true that non-criminal, ordinary, US citizens have been detained and roughed-up in churches, at work, in their bed, etc....

Now that would have been unlikely a few months ago?

 

[Clockwerk50]

I've always had mixed feelings about this subject. On the one hand, I have great respect for men who fight and die for their country, especially if they are volunteers. On the other hand, it's hard to escape the conclusion that many of them die in vain. Take the example of the solider from your city. His death in Afghanistan was pointless. The war in Afghanistan was won in December of 2001, about three months after 9/11. Taliban was defeated very quickly and with very few U.S. casualties. Basically, the U.S. provided air support and weapons to the Northern Alliance and that was enough to topple the Taliban. The U.S. should have let Northern Alliance take over the entire country and hunt down the remnants of the Taliban. Instead, they decided to occupy Afghanistan and "build democracy". 99% of U.S. casualties occurred during this 20-year nation building stage, which ended up being a complete failure. And the worst part is that it was entirely predictable, given the earlier experiences of the British and the Soviets.

I agree. Pretty much every major conflict participated in post-WWII has been done to widen financial or power-related gains, as opposed to valid reasons of self-defense from an imminent threat.

There is a distinctive nuance between serving your country and dying for your country.

 

[BadBoy89]

I am trying to join a military unit who are better than 90% of recruits minimum, but who also would be the first to die. After I told her my gf said "you are stupid". I replied I will not talk to her until she apologizes. Was this the right thing to do? We are long distance.

What did you want her to say?

"I hope you will be the first to die" ?

 

[RoadKing_Rabbit]

That's an interesting way to word your dialogue.

To the point though, if you're in the military and you've got an "LDR" (I don't consider them actual relationships as any intimacy is nuanced at best and nonexistent as anything second to best.) it's a lot easier to be a troop, NCO or heck even a commissioned officer without being in a long term, let alone long distance relationship. Introducing an LTR in that lifestyle is tough on everyone and should NEVER be taken lightly.

I can count on one hand military men who have never been divorced to my knowledge. Unless you plan to serve 20+ years and retire, I'd stay away from marriage or having children. It's really lonely for sure and being around that much testosterone can really make you go nuts at times. However, dealing with the stress of cheating, divorce while being in the service (The service, despite being mostly male is NOT something that means the divorce courts will be forgiving. It's actually the opposite.) is the sword of Damocles! That kind of worry, stress and distraction can really blunt your focus on missions or individual readiness and fitness for duty.

I'm not going to say you're right or wrong for what you said. Although I also don't blame her for what she said. Civilians won't ever really understand 100%. Especially a love interest. My own mother called me crazy just for joining up period. My dad said I was crazy just for picking the Marines instead of another branch, but he "Had a gut feeling" and knew I was going to go into the military.

I've been ready and fully qualified to die since July 28th 2006 but I'm still here. A lot of us aren't. That's something everyone knows to some degree about military personnel. Be glad that came up before you decided to move her on base or something. I'm not telling you what to do. I'm just telling you what I've seen and given you my opinion/advice. Stay alert and best of luck for your pursuit of joining an elite unit.

 

[Travel memoir21]

Back in the game is right, ldrs are tough and you’ve got to have a decent woman with great qualities to pull that off especially if you’re gonna have a military career. That place is loaded with affairs and divorces kid, plan your future very carefully from here on out brother

 

[Bokanovsky]

I agree. Pretty much every major conflict participated in post-WWII has been done to widen financial or power-related gains, as opposed to valid reasons of self-defense from an imminent threat.

There is a distinctive nuance between serving your country and dying for your country.

You can add most pre-WWII conflicts to that list as well.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Dudes think in terms of glory and honor and elite status

Too many fellas today have played entirely too much Call Of Duty, believe that RL is going to play out just like a video game

 

[sevbucmash]

I am trying to join a military unit who are better than 90% of recruits minimum, but who also would be the first to die

Have you seen this Norwegian military dance video? It's gay AF!

Ukraine war is nothing special, it was done so that UN can go to hell and new world leadership can be based in Davos. That's somewhere near the Norway. We kind of know that now.

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There won't be battle for arctic neither, United States (thanks to Greenland) and Russia take their respective parts. You're left in your elite unit with hopefully high pay.

But in all honesty, military career is not it. It's not the route for success. Business, and the earlier you start the better, is where its at. You want a lot of money, that way chicks love you. Where you going now is sit at home mom with children, and you gone somewhere most of the time -- you already know how it will eventually end. It's a boring route, IHMO. You could have had toys, houses, fast cars, but you chose your special unit.

 

[CornbreadFed]

I am trying to join a military unit who are better than 90% of recruits minimum, but who also would be the first to die. After I told her my gf said "you are stupid". I replied I will not talk to her until she apologizes. Was this the right thing to do? We are long distance.

It’s foolish to risk your life for the interests of a group of wealthy old men. Your GF is right. This isn't WW2 or some aggressive communist civil war where you losing means your whole village gets exterminated.

 

[corrector]

It’s foolish to risk your life for the interests of a group of wealthy old men.

Pervy old men at that.

The Epstein files.

 

[MatureDJ]

You are really going to give your life for a country that doesn't care about you just to line their pockets of the elites and industrial war complex? Look at how many veterans have been mistreated or are living homeless.

Patriotism, especially at the tribal level, is highly positively evolutionary - it both kept the tribe as a genetic legacy alive, and gave the warrior men the ability to mog others so as to get access to females. That evolutionary imprint is still very strong.