Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Did I blow it?

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Ok, background info on the situation.

I've started talking to this girl in my public speaking class about a week ago now after one of my speeches. After that speech she kept telling me how much she liked the speech and thought it was really funny. The speech was a persuasive speech on why you should not "rice out" your car. Our next project in this Public speaking class would be a debate about a controversial topic. Since she kept telling me she loved my speech so I managed to get her on my team for this debate. We settled on our topic and started researching it on campus. After the first day of researching(which was friday) I asked her if she wanted to work on the project outside of class and she said it would be a good idea. We exchanged numbers and we agreed to get intouch with eachother on sunday to work on it. I mentioned to her that my roommates and I are having a kegger on saturday and told her she should come by. She put a smile on her face and her eyes opened up a little wider and she said she would like to come.

So the next day she arrived at my apartment for the party. We started drinking, playing beer pong and talking. I innitiated some kino while we were playing beer pong and she seemed to like it. After a couple of rounds we took a walk around the complex with a couple other people. We both had our arms around eachother and were just walking and little ways behind the other people. At this time I felt pretty good and assumed I was "in". We were having a great time and just laughing about everything, things were clicking.

When we got back to the apartment a bunch of us went out to the porch and were just talking to eachother. Me and the girl (we'll just call her Sara for now) were sitting at a 90 degree angle where my left arm was around her stomac and resting on her right hip.

At one point "Sara" and just about everyone else left the porch to go get some more beer/wine/liquour and it was just me and one of her female friends (she brough 2 females friends over) left on the porch. After everyone was out of hearing distance (or atleast hopfully) I asker her friend is Sara was single, she told me she was but she also told me there was this guy in Maine that she kinda likes and he was going to be coming down to go to the same college within a year. But after that she assured me that she was single again. We had a little small talk until everyone returned and Sara and I went back to the position we were in before. At one point everyone left again except it was just me and Sara outside. I admited to her that I liked her (which was prolly not the best of things to do) and if I did anything stupid she should let me know, she chuckled and said ok. Everyone returned and we all talked for a bit more. At one point I had my chin on her right shoulder and I was talking softly into her ear. I can't really remember what we were saying to eachother but do remember that we were both laughing which was a good thing. At the end of the party I thought everything went very smooth and I built some good repor.

(Sorry its so long and probably filled with a bunch of useless info, just bare with me)

So the next day (Sunday) I call her up late in the evening and we made plans to work on the debate. I pretty much wrote about 70% of the debate prior to us meeting. I went to her place and we talked a little bit before we actualy started working. We worked very little on the speech as we both side-tracked eachother and were just basically talking about the party the night before and about eachothers families and friends. At one point she was laying down on her couch with her feet behind me while we were talking to eachother. I just wanted to lean over and kiss her but I didn't cuz im a puss.

I noticed she had a cat and mentioned that I was allergic to them and soon enough I started to have a really bad runny nose and my eyes were getting all puffy, itchy and red. She made fun of me a little bit jokingly saying she was making me cry. She put her hand on my stomac and said it would be ok.

At this point I was getting really irritated by the cat that I was allergic to and told her it would be a good idea if we went to my place to work on the debate.

She aggred to come to my place. My roommate was out in the common area watching the lakers-boston game so we couldn't really work on it out there. So we went into my room to work on it. I really didn't want to bring her into my room cuz I didn't want make her uncomfortable. I kept the door wide open and "tried" to focus on the paper. Well, once again we didn't even work on the paper we just sat at my computer desk showing eachother funny video's on youtube. At one point she questioned why my browsing history was completly empty and jokingly poked at me saying its because I didn't want her to see all the porn I look at. I just had a smile on my face and said I don't know what your talking about, and she laughed.

After a while I asked her if she wanted to watch the end of the lakers-boston game and we went out to the common area to watch it.

And this is were it gets sketchy.

For some reason she kinda looked like she was alienated and kinda sat away from me. She sorta looked like she didn't want to be there anymore. She rarely said anything and when she did she was making some weird comments about the game. The only good thing about the situation was she was sitting on her feet with her knee's pointed at me (I think thats a good thing right?).

After the game I drove her back to her place (which is very close to my place).

I walked he to her door and about two seconds before I was going to ask her if I could kiss her (and not, like that one artical says to do) she turns around and gives me a hug and we say our goodbyes.

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So now I feel like I've struck out because I was to much of a puss to pull a move on her last night (sunday).

If anyone could give me some comments or suggestions that would be awsome.

Also, im going to a water park this upcoming weekend with some friends and I want to invite her to come but I kinda feel like its to early for something like this. Any ideas?
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I admited to her that I liked her (which was prolly not the best of things to do) and if I did anything stupid she should let me know
You blew it here. Your frame is way off, you simultaneously admitted your feelings to her and put her on a pedestal, and you directly asked her to qualify you. You ceased to be a challenge at that point, and by asking her friend if she was single, Sara is guaranteed to hear about your inquiry in a juicy phone conversation making you look more like a chump.

I was going to ask her if I could kiss her
Are you kidding me? Man. Be very glad you didn't actually do that.

What you should have done the night of the party was remain cool and then ultimately MAKE A MOVE to demonstrate your intentions. Your window of opportunity for the most part already closed for the time being and she has already formed her opinion about you. Right now your interest level is much higher than hers and she's going to keep pushing back with empty stares and feigned laughter should she decide to accept your invitations if she has absolutely nothing better to do.
 

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Damn, I guess I blew it a lot worse then I thought I did. Im not ready to give up though. We do still have to give the debate and I think maybe I can turn it around there.

What do you suggest I do man.
 

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alphaace said:
Damn, I guess I blew it a lot worse then I thought I did. Im not ready to give up though. We do still have to give the debate and I think maybe I can turn it around there.

What do you suggest I do man.
Most everyone else on this forum is probably going to tell you to next her, which is what you probably should do, but I think you still might have a chance at this if you acted smooth enough at the party to spark any sort of attraction. Judging by your description of her reaction that night, I get the feeling that she probably was quite into you at the beginning, but then once you told her your feelings, she bailed.

Your best bet with this chick is to back the hell off. Cut all contact. See other girls.
 

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I walked he to her door and about two seconds before I was going to ask her if I could kiss her (and not, like that one artical says to do) she turns around and gives me a hug and we say our goodbyes.
I don't know what article tells you to do that, but that is about the gayest piece of advice I have ever read. It reeks of someone trying to be a lot smoother than they really are. If you want to kiss the girl, just grab her and frigg'n do it. If you want to play hard to get on the first date, play hard to get. But don't do that idiotic s--- you were considering.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I tried to find the article but I guess it was pulled off the website.

Anyway, she text'd me yesterday afternoon after saying her friend left a braclet somewhere. I found it and told her I would bring it to class the next day.

During class she asked me if I had it and I told her I "forgot" it in my vehical. She asked if we could go get it after class and we did.

Had some small talk on the walk to get the bracelet, got there, gave it to her. I offered to drive her to her vechial and she said sure.

More small talk on the short drive to her vehical. When we got there I mentioned that my roommates and I were going out tomorrow night and suggested that she should come. She said she would like to go out.

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I guess I wasn't vivid enough in my prior post about her interest level, but at the same time I can only remember half of what happened that night.

Not to sound like a d|ck or anything but to me, Telos, you are a bit condescending and that crap doesnt fly with me. I know you think your just trying to help but you need to think about what you type. So don't reply with all negatives. Although I do appreciate you telling me that you thought I still have a chance and I think tomorrow night at the club will be my time to shine.

Like I said, im not ready to give up. But I do think im on strike two. Strike one being that I admited I liked her and strike two for acting like a puss the following night.

Wish me luck boys and im still open for some suggestions.
 
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