"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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did 30 min today, no numbers

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i did a 30 min round at the mall and hit up about 10 girls and 1 girl at wal mart, i didn't get any numbers BUT my confidence now went up as a result in approaching women. Now its easier for me to approach them. My line is "hey you look good, give me your number so i can get to know you more" all of them said "nope". I had one of them that kinda showed interests saying she was married but then at the end before I left asked me what my name was.:confused:
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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are you trying to get rid of AA? if so, GREAT job. keep doing it. you are on ur way.

If you are actually trying to pick her up, maybe not be so direct?(as in straight to the phone number) Anyways....keep it up!
 

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You might want to try improve that line of yours if you want better results. Good work on approaching though. :up:
 

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Irs88 said:
are you trying to get rid of AA? if so, GREAT job. keep doing it. you are on ur way.

If you are actually trying to pick her up, maybe not be so direct?(as in straight to the phone number) Anyways....keep it up!
sounds about right
 

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You need to work on building some chemistry/attraction before you directly ask for the number. But congrats on manning up and taking the time and initiative to approach.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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909pua said:
i did a 30 min round at the mall and hit up about 10 girls and 1 girl at wal mart, i didn't get any numbers BUT my confidence now went up as a result in approaching women. Now its easier for me to approach them. My line is "hey you look good, give me your number so i can get to know you more" all of them said "nope". I had one of them that kinda showed interests saying she was married but then at the end before I left asked me what my name was.:confused:
:shakes head:

So many things you're doing wrong with this kind of approach.

Rule #1: Never make it look, feel, or seem like you're hitting on them.
Rule #2: If they're not comfortable talking to you BEFORE you approach, you're fighting and uphill battle.

The exception to Rule #1 is the direct approach, which is fine for Daygame IMO since people are short on time and have things to do. Otherwise going in with a compliment, observational, or functional opener is fine. When you do this, only after qualifying her in a positive light do you use an opinion opener. From there you spin it into a generic conversation all the while displaying attractive qualities. If either of you are on your way somewhere then you close by saying something like:

"You know what, you seem like an interesting person. We should keep in touch. What's a good way of staying in contact?"

Take her contact details, whatever they might be, fluff talk for a moment or two and then part ways. There are other ways and types of closing, but that's a simple way to get you started.

Now all that being said, the most powerful daygame progression is to take her on an instant-date. Just tell her you could use a coffee, ice cream, or whatever and motion the 'lets go" and see if she's up for it. (you're leading now!) Talk for a while and see where things go. If you don't pull then get her contact details described above.


Do not do what you're doing right now, which essentially amounts to "Hey baby, want some d*ck?"



Now for the direct approach. What you're doing is not direct, well it is, but it's not a full pickup. You're jumping straight to the close and you'll almost never get a woman to offer up solid (as in she won't flake) contact details in this manner. When you go direct, the best form IMO is the sincere direct:

(1) Excuse me, I know this is completely random, but... (2) you are absolutely stunning... (3) I had to come over and meet you or I'd be kicking myself all afternoon (4) I'm ____. (shake hands)



1. This makes you non-confrontational and seem genuine, pleasant, and creates preliminary comfort.
2. Change tonality and speak slowly, not lecherous, but with a hint of sexiness.
3. Switch back to sincere tonality, almost like you're impressed by her.
4. Change tonality again like you just met someone at work during a meeting. Basically be really plain and neutral and then shake her hand and exchange names.


Personally I mainly stick with the sincere direct since it's simple, to the point, and when I'm out I'm usually trying to get stuff done so I can get home. I don't want to take my time and fluff with each chick I find attractive. I'd never get anything done if I did!
 

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was there a time that you were dry where you couldn't get any numbers? and how long did it take you to get out of that mindset and turn stuff around?
 

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You're trying to ask for a number without building any rapport first. No wonder you failed.
 

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i dont know man, it seems that when picking up chicks, its much harder when you approach them than when you are in a workplace setting. At work, i meet chicks left and right and continue rapport with them and am able to take them to lunch etc...but cold approaches, i get turned down.

anyone can give advice on how to bridge both worlds so i can treat a cold approach like my workplace?
 

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yea man, if you can approach you should have a bit better lines, plus if it was in a mall in a short time span of 30 minutes and on a wednesday, chances are some of those girls saw you talking to other ones. You probably came off as creepy/desperate.
 

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You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

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mtlwlu said:
yea man, if you can approach you should have a bit better lines, plus if it was in a mall in a short time span of 30 minutes and on a wednesday, chances are some of those girls saw you talking to other ones. You probably came off as creepy/desperate.

not really, the minute they said "no" or some other bs "i have a boyfriend" i would just shake their hand, say nice meeting you, and leave..i didn't hang around and show i was desperate. i went to another mall today and there was one girl that i hung around for like 5 min..then i went up to her and said "hey you know what, i dont wanna beat around the bush but i think you look good, give me your number so i can get to know you more" she said "no way"..then i just left.

one of them today, she saw me looking at her while i past the store, i saw her thru the window, then i did a reverse and went in . then while i was approaching her she picked up her phone (pretending she was making a call , i knew its an evasion tactic but i didnt give a fvck so i still tried..this bitvch said "i have a boyfriend and he's the jealous type")

but yeah, i was trying to do that experiment...some guy in this forum posted that him and a friend went to the mall to ask 100 chicks straight out for their phone numbers directly and he only got 14..so my approach only gives me a 14% chance...apparently its not working. so imma try again tomorrow at a different mall. all together for today at the mall, i probably talked to 5 girls..

what's the most common way to open with a line? i read alot of stuff in this forum and some line openers and majority of the girls i hit on are latina/mexican from southern california so some of the lines might sound like a joke to them because some of them are ghetto minded!
 

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You need to improve that line ASAP. Also you need to build rapport because it sounded like you made the girls feel you were hitting on them as opposed to having a genuine, natural conversation. That's why they all said nope.

That aside, you seemed like you were trying to get rid of approach anxiety. I commend that. Your intro (ice breaker) needs to be worked on. You do that.
 

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909pua said:
i did a 30 min round at the mall and hit up about 10 girls and 1 girl at wal mart, i didn't get any numbers BUT my confidence now went up as a result in approaching women. Now its easier for me to approach them. My line is "hey you look good, give me your number so i can get to know you more" all of them said "nope". I had one of them that kinda showed interests saying she was married but then at the end before I left asked me what my name was.:confused:
Remember man, if Jordan got all down and heartbroken about missing one shot and disappeared from the league, nobody would know who the ****in' guy is.

Keep swinging.
 
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