DHV'ing.

[Messarger]

Hi all at sosuave. I'm reading the Venusian Arts Handbook and its answered some of my questions regarding pick up.

But it didnt really cover how to properly show higher value. I know that story telling is a good way to DHV the characteristics eg pre-selection and stuff like that. But how is one suppose to tell a story out of no where? It has to be related to the conversation and i know i have to direct it. But doesnt that limit your conversation topics if you have to direct the conversation for the sake of telling a particular story?

Also, are there other ways of DHV'ing? I know humour is another way, but too much humour equals comedian, and i dont want that.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Understand what your quarry's values and if you have those qualities, market yourself to it. During your conversations you should be looking to find these values (you are qualifying her, right?).

 

[ChrizZ]

you can DHV by...

- your bodylanguage

- tell interesting stories

- qualifying the girl(s)

- the way you dress (peacocking)

- the way you speak

- neg hits

- ...

 

[Messarger]

you can DHV by...

- your bodylanguage

- tell interesting stories

- qualifying the girl(s)

- the way you dress (peacocking)

- the way you speak

- neg hits

- ...

I am doing quite well at negging already. But how do i go into telling stories? I've already planned out the story i want to tell, but i cant possibly just cut the conversation thread about the opener and go into story telling. Is there a smooth way to do this?

Also, about qualifying, how do i qualify smoothly so i dont seem to interview her? I get the idea about making open ended statements, bit i usually get 1 word or sentence answers and it isnt interesting.

 

[ChrizZ]

I am doing quite well at negging already. But how do i go into telling stories? I've already planned out the story i want to tell, but i cant possibly just cut the conversation thread about the opener and go into story telling. Is there a smooth way to do this?

Also, about qualifying, how do i qualify smoothly so i dont seem to interview her? I get the idea about making open ended statements, bit i usually get 1 word or sentence answers and it isnt interesting.

stories:
Use canned stories. Just be like:
"...hey guys, guess what I saw/did yesterday"
A tip. The longer the story is, the more it has to be at the end of the conversation. Also, use bodylanguage, make lots of pauses and be energized when you tell a story.

qualifying:
you can combine that with your story.
"Would you guys ever do that to a guy?"
"You are all beautiful girls, but you know what´s even more rare than beauty? Beautiful girls that are smart and have a great personality. If I´d ask you to tell me three good things about you, not refering to your looks, what would you say?"

I hope that helps

 

[G-Theory]

But how do i go into telling stories? I've already planned out the story i want to tell, but i cant possibly just cut the conversation thread about the opener and go into story telling. Is there a smooth way to do this?

Juggler recommends that you don't worry about a smooth transition. It keeps the conversation more exciting if you just switch the conversation topic. This is a DHV because most people do not do this and it ke.

Basically all DHV's are doing is framing yourself as the prize.

 

[THE_ADDMAN]

Juggler recommends that you don't worry about a smooth transition. It keeps the conversation more exciting if you just switch the conversation topic. This is a DHV because most people do not do this and it ke.

Basically all DHV's are doing is framing yourself as the prize.

truth. I even go so far as to say that in the right context, ANYTHING can be a DHV

therefore focus on who you are, not what you do.

 

[nicenomore]

I am doing quite well at negging already. But how do i go into telling stories? I've already planned out the story i want to tell, but i cant possibly just cut the conversation thread about the opener and go into story telling. Is there a smooth way to do this?

Also, about qualifying, how do i qualify smoothly so i dont seem to interview her? I get the idea about making open ended statements, bit i usually get 1 word or sentence answers and it isnt interesting.

Read the following articles on story telling:

By wilder:
http://themysterymethod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108

By vision:
http://themysterymethod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31621

 

[Lust]

You don't have to have smooth transitioning, as long as the next routine you go into seems congruent and she can't tell it's all canned.

Example:

Opener: Woof, woof woof woof.

Laugh/fluff

Story:

PUA: You know how kids go through this phase where they think the opposite sex is gross?
HB: Yeah

PUA: Well, I never went through that. Ever since I was born I've loved girls. When I popped out of my mom I probably hit on the nurse. (Pause slightly to see her response)

PUA: So in elementary school when all my friends thought that girls had cooties I was secretly making out with them during playtime. Sometimes, I'd even do cutesy stuff like pretend we were getting married or whatnot. (Pause slightly to see her response)

PUA: I remember this one in third grade, I had this girlfriend. But now I was with this other girl under the building block table. Yeah, third grade and I was already cheating on my girlfriends. (This almost ALWAYS gets a laugh)

PUA: So I'm kissing this girl and my girlfriend finds me and freaks out. I get up and try to explain that we were just playing doctor or some ****. Now as kids we never wore bluejeans or belts or anything, I wore these sweat pants things with the elastic waistband, and right there she pulls my pants AND my underwear down. (You'll get a good reaction right here as she should totally be into the story by now)

PUA: I didn't know what to do. I'm standing there with my weenie hanging out. So for some reason, I figured the best thing to do, would just be to pull her pants down too. I grab them but she jumps back a step and sticks her tongue out at me. Now I wasn't about to let her get away with all this so I jump forward. But I forget that I've got my undies around my ankles so I trip and fall on top of her. And JUST at that moment the teacher turns around from the blackboard and just freezes with the most horrified look on her face. I remember the chalk falling from her hand, her screaming, and then the entire class turns and sees me half naked on top of my girlfriend.

PUA: I was sent to the principal, but I never really got in trouble. The principle actually laughed about it once I told him what happened. He let me go saying, "Remember Arcane, in the classroom, we keep our hands off and our pants on".

Next routine: When she replies to the story:

Interrupt her with this:

"You know, you're kinda alright."

Just anything, as long as it seems congruent.

 

[\O/]

You don't have to have smooth transitioning, as long as the next routine you go into seems congruent and she can't tell it's all canned.

Example:

Opener: Woof, woof woof woof.

Laugh/fluff

Story:

PUA: You know how kids go through this phase where they think the opposite sex is gross?
HB: Yeah

PUA: Well, I never went through that. Ever since I was born I've loved girls. When I popped out of my mom I probably hit on the nurse. (Pause slightly to see her response)

PUA: So in elementary school when all my friends thought that girls had cooties I was secretly making out with them during playtime. Sometimes, I'd even do cutesy stuff like pretend we were getting married or whatnot. (Pause slightly to see her response)

PUA: I remember this one in third grade, I had this girlfriend. But now I was with this other girl under the building block table. Yeah, third grade and I was already cheating on my girlfriends. (This almost ALWAYS gets a laugh)

PUA: So I'm kissing this girl and my girlfriend finds me and freaks out. I get up and try to explain that we were just playing doctor or some ****. Now as kids we never wore bluejeans or belts or anything, I wore these sweat pants things with the elastic waistband, and right there she pulls my pants AND my underwear down. (You'll get a good reaction right here as she should totally be into the story by now)

PUA: I didn't know what to do. I'm standing there with my weenie hanging out. So for some reason, I figured the best thing to do, would just be to pull her pants down too. I grab them but she jumps back a step and sticks her tongue out at me. Now I wasn't about to let her get away with all this so I jump forward. But I forget that I've got my undies around my ankles so I trip and fall on top of her. And JUST at that moment the teacher turns around from the blackboard and just freezes with the most horrified look on her face. I remember the chalk falling from her hand, her screaming, and then the entire class turns and sees me half naked on top of my girlfriend.

PUA: I was sent to the principal, but I never really got in trouble. The principle actually laughed about it once I told him what happened. He let me go saying, "Remember Arcane, in the classroom, we keep our hands off and our pants on".

Next routine: When she replies to the story:

Interrupt her with this:

"You know, you're kinda alright."

Just anything, as long as it seems congruent.

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