"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Destiny

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Is it possible for some men maybe never to attract women? I know this seems like a very strange and random topic, but for the last few years Ive always kidded myself up with the fact that maybe things will change and I will finally get what I deserve.
But in reality it never happens and every year ends up the same way...with nothing going no further in life.
Im a believer in fate(despite being a atheist) and I believe everyone has a path in life and maybe mine is to be alone.
Ive followed everyones advice here, but sadly the same results are always happen, even if I make eye contact with a girl, she just looks away.
Ive seen people in my walks of life that are middle aged and even now they havent even got close to a relationship, lets face it even if I did manage to attract a woman nothing is going to make up for the time ive lost.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I'll answer your question first: No, although I don't think that's why you posted this. If you want to get into a relationship but you don't feel you are able then go out and do the following: (This isn't an original idea)

Dress nice, do your hair, grab your cell and some breathe mints and go out to coffee shops, bookstores, malls, clubs or wherever you think you are likely to find women you want to meet. Here's the objective: Make small talk and at some point say, "Let me get your number and we'll meet up sometime," and get rejected 30 times. Talk to women who you could see yourself dating. Smile as you approach and act nonchalant during the conversation. I recommend you don't come back to this website until you try this.
 
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Destiny is a completely incoherent idea. If you really try to explain exactly what destiny is and where it comes from you'll see that it's just a fanciful fairytale. So just take a deep breath and relax. Getting a girl to date you isn't predetermined for you.

When it comes to getting a girl to date you, you don't have to be THAT smooth or good looking. You just need to have the balls to let her know you're interested. Believe it or not, women WANT to like you. Which is kind of a mind**** if you don't have a lot of self confidence. I started a thread about this a few days ago; you should check it out (I think it was called something about getting to the first kiss).
 

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There is no destiny, there is no fate. You should know this by now.. remember your folks told you about santa as a kid..? Similarly, destiny, fate, unconditional love, 'god' (for some who believe god is a real person up above who grants wishes) - all of these things are made up for the sake of humanity cuz stress can only make you hope that all of these exist.


The reality is right in front of you. people dying without food, wild orgies, pots and pots of money spent on sex, glamour and stupid people walking around...all of that is reality. Its high time you 'unculture' yourself, open your eyes and embrace the moment/present and you'll begin to see the opportunities.


Yeah, I agree life is 'unfair'...but this is it.

The fact you are not getting any woman is because you are not doing what it takes to get it! Its not going to fall in your lap just like that... you gotta work for it... just like you spend time finding a job and then you get it.

Make your own destiny. What you do today is what you will see tomorrow.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I do not believe in "destiny", but it sounds like what you are describing is a self-fulfilling proficy (sp). In other words, if you believe it to come true, it probably will. The mind is a powerful thing.
 

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Effington said:
describing is a self-fulfilling proficy (sp). In other words, if you believe it to come true, it probably will. The mind is a powerful thing.
I am beggining to believe in this myself, that is, you believe something and tell yourself it is true, and convince yourself of the outcomes so much that you subconciously start acting to such an extent that you make it come true.
 

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I know it's cheesy, but there's a line from Terminator 2: "No fate. There's no fate but what we make for ourselves."

You seem to be stuck in a self-fulfilling prophecy. Who is the master of your destiny? Do you want to allow your life to be controlled by outside forces or do you want to forge your own path, like Ghandi, MLK, Donald Trump, Bill Gates, and other greats of our time and those past? Have you heard the line from Stairway to Heaven where Robert Plant sings "yes there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run... there's still time to change the road you're on."

The future is NOW, my friend, and it is your job to mold the world around you into one of your choosing.
 

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Unfortunately, it is *very* possible to never attract women. Some men were just born that way, try as they might. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try though! I doubt you'd be one of those ill-fated males
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Unfortunately, it is *very* possible to never attract women. Some men were just born that way, try as they might. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try though! I doubt you'd be one of those ill-fated males
DevanE I wish It was a wind up but this is definately true I have the status that LostandConfused is talking about, maybe I have got a negative attitude, but I cant see how things are just going to change all of a sudden, lets face it im a lot older now so I dont have much more going for me, Ive had a tough time of things and it looks to be getting a lot tougher.
 

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afc_2_dj said:
I am beggining to believe in this myself, that is, you believe something and tell yourself it is true, and convince yourself of the outcomes so much that you subconciously start acting to such an extent that you make it come true.
If you've ever heard of the best selling book, "The Secret", that's all it really says, over and over for 100 pages. Whether it's actually legitimate, that's up for debate, but it definitely helps, to an extent. I think the book takes it a little overboard, all the way to saying a positive attitude can get you rich and powerful and anything you want, but as long as you believe it, the author sells books and gets rich.
 

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"success is luck, ask any failure''


the above applies to all aspects of life. you must MAKE IT HAPPEN.

learn to help yourself.


im not sure about destiny, there are many paths for us to take, you control your own destiny. what kind of destiny will non-action get you? isnt that just an excuse for not trying?
 

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Believe me its not the way I want my life to go but its the way it is, even now after all these years it may be too late to turn back the clock.
I cant change the way things have gone, ive looked back and thought of how I could have changed it but sadly there isnt a way.
Laziness doesnt come into it, Its a lot harder having things the way they are now and always have been(and probably always will be) than the straight forward happier way things could have been like.
 

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You sound like a quitter who can't get anywhere with women, and probably in the rest of your life, because you are too busy feeling sorry for yourself. Are you suffering from depression and/or low self-esteem? You should get some help.

As it stands, if you don't wake up some morning and decide to be a little optimistic, determined and actively go do something, then you will indeed spend the rest of your life alone. And you will deserve it too.

Stop making excuses.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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PlaysToWin said:
You sound like a quitter who can't get anywhere with women, and probably in the rest of your life, because you are too busy feeling sorry for yourself. Are you suffering from depression and/or low self-esteem? You should get some help.

As it stands, if you don't wake up some morning and decide to be a little optimistic, determined and actively go do something, then you will indeed spend the rest of your life alone. And you will deserve it too.

Stop making excuses.
Trust me mate ive never been a quitter.
I know it may seem like that but ive been through hell and always find a way of bouncing back, most people I know in life have had opportunites handed to them and people always helped them along the way, for me ive always been on my own and had to find a way to adapt and survive in all circles of life, ive always had to fight my own battles. Yes ive suffered with Bipolar Disorder(which will always be ongoing in my life) but I know the things that have happened have had zero to do with my condition.
Id love things to change and to lead a normal happy life, but lets face it, im 24 now my best years have gone and after all this time its unlikely that things are going to change.
 

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It's impossible. How do ugly girls have bfs/get married? haha
 

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The Damned said:
Trust me mate ive never been a quitter.
I know it may seem like that but ive been through hell and always find a way of bouncing back, most people I know in life have had opportunites handed to them and people always helped them along the way, for me ive always been on my own and had to find a way to adapt and survive in all circles of life, ive always had to fight my own battles. Yes ive suffered with Bipolar Disorder(which will always be ongoing in my life) but I know the things that have happened have had zero to do with my condition.
Id love things to change and to lead a normal happy life, but lets face it, im 24 now my best years have gone and after all this time its unlikely that things are going to change.
You're 24??? Your best years have certainly NOT passed.

I used to think the same as you...."When I have more muscles/techniques/confidence/clear skin etc etc I'll be successful" errrr....no, you HAVE to go and approach, and get rejected. This is not easy, but the reward is the greatest thing on earth: sex!

How much do you approach at the moment?
 

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You're 24??? Your best years have certainly NOT passed.

I used to think the same as you...."When I have more muscles/techniques/confidence/clear skin etc etc I'll be successful" errrr....no, you HAVE to go and approach, and get rejected. This is not easy, but the reward is the greatest thing on earth: sex!

How much do you approach at the moment?

Zero at the moment mate and never even tried, even if I look at a woman she looks away, maybe if I get one who even glances at me or smiles then it might give me the confidence to approach them, so far not one has even showed me the remotest interest
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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