“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Desperation will nuke your chances

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They probably acted that way because it was a blow to their ego getting rejected by a chick with a $hitty body.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

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Indifference won't get you the girl but a lack of indifference will totally destroy ANY chance you may have had.
What can a man do to get the girl?
 

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Kavi IMO both those are beta especially after a first date or even after a 2nd. The whole tone of it is feminine to me. Now high interest? Yea probably could say anything but young guys should be indifferent enough for her to reach out first 80% of the time.
Exactly what OP is saying. You CANT pretend to not give a fck but if you do in the early stages coach yourself through it.
"Saying nice meeting you" in womaneze
Is saying I cant wait to see you again.
Yes I 100% agree. Saying " nice meeting you" after a date is suicide. This is especially true with the hotter girls. A switch flips in her brain and she gets turned off.

I made this mistake with a super hot chick after a really fun date. It cost me dearly. Never ever ever reach out first after a date.
 

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Keep following Stringpuller's advice, and you'll be just like him.. He's the only one pulling his own string on his skin flute.
Even though I believe you to be wrong on this topic this was a funny insult I ain't gonna lie lol.

But Stringpuller is right bro. If you go on a date with a 7.5/10 + you just can't afford to be the first one to reach out. Not if you are dating in the demographic of 18-30 yrs old.

Dude even after you have sex with them these days they will still test you to see how clingy you are. Even after that first sexual encounter you can not reach out first!

If you reach out first 8/10 times you have blown your chance with the hot girls.
 

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Sure Rick. He would be fortunate too turn out like me.
I make my own path from what works by way of RP and whats working in the field. Not in a theory. The only flute being played here is the mental masterbation
flute.
If you knew anything about women. (Attractive women that is) they can sniff desperation out through all those cute little text messages asking how her day is going and all that crap. Its the precursor to the Male Girlfriend

FACTS
Exactly man. They can smell desperation like a damn hound dog. It's insane. It's like a super power and I'm not even exaggerating. Their brain is finely calibrated to pick up on these subtle cues.
 

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Oh I forgot to add that one of the guys was butthurt that she curved him. During the tirade he tells her " I slay hella cheeks". She looks at me and goes " no he doesn't".

The implication being that if he really got that much sex then he would not be pissed about her acting wishy washy.

They can tell if you are getting women or not. Don't ever try to prove yourself. It ends up having the counter effect.

I was talking to a girl last night ( I met her via OLD). She said she went on a date with one guy but left and had sex with another guy. The original guy turned her off because he kept bragging about his fancy car. He was trying to prove himself to this girl.

So after she has sex with the other guy this fancy car guy texts her. He is asking why he should give her another chance . She was like wtf? What don't you get. I went home with another guy and you still wanna chill????

Btw this girl was not hot at all. Don't ever underestimate the levels of desperation that the average girl has seen. You don't want to be lumped into that category at all. This is why they are so hypersensitive to any sign of desperation. They have seen some things.
 

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Yes I 100% agree. Saying " nice meeting you" after a date is suicide. This is especially true with the hotter girls. A switch flips in her brain and she gets turned off.

I made this mistake with a super hot chick after a really fun date. It cost me dearly. Never ever ever reach out first after a date.

I clarified and said this is not after a date but after a cold-approach or something similar. Ofcourse you dont say "nice to meet you" after a first date you will sound like a square from the 1950s

But what I'm saying, if you interact with a girl and really blow her mind and she likes you alot, she will want you to reach out first oftentimes. This is because she knows you are high-value and she will be afraid if she texts you first and you dont respond she will be left hanging and will feel bad and rejected. If your date goes really well and the girl is really into you, I think feel free to reach out first, just keep it 'understated' and not try-hard and she will appreciate that you are alpha enough not to play these games because you are already winning.

All these responses here are about not being desperate but when you are high value enough the girl is 'affected' by your interaction this is not really an issue, in which case you can now show that you are nice, considerate and thinking about her, which gives her the confidence to continue to like you and feel confident that you like her and it builds comfort.
 

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DONT EVER act like she effects you. Play it super indifferent young men. This took me 30+ yrs to truly understand. You will be surprised how many men freak out even over a fat chick.
Every man should strive to be Stoic not only in their interactions with women, but in everyday life.

The Stoic is serene & confident, acts reasonably, focuses on what he controls, unattached to external things, grateful & calm, kind & generous, takes full responsibility for his life, and accepts fate graciously.

By reacting desperately and being repulsive to a woman, you are giving your power to her. By remaining indifferent and calm to a situation, you are gaining strength and experience while gaining respect from the other person.
 

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What can a man do to get the girl?
1.- Triple book. Schedule a date with three different girls, more or less at the same time/place.
2.- If none of them flaked, go out with the hottest one and flake on the other girls.
3.- If a girl physically show up for a second date, it means she has interest. You are in the clear now. She will show up for future dates. Unless you lose interest in her or dont do or say anything to mess it up you will bang her sooner or later. She is now a plate in your rotation.

This has worked for me. Rinse & repeat.
 

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Even though I believe you to be wrong on this topic this was a funny insult I ain't gonna lie lol.

But Stringpuller is right bro. If you go on a date with a 7.5/10 + you just can't afford to be the first one to reach out. Not if you are dating in the demographic of 18-30 yrs old.

Dude even after you have sex with them these days they will still test you to see how clingy you are. Even after that first sexual encounter you can not reach out first!

If you reach out first 8/10 times you have blown your chance with the hot girls.
Never heard of such a thing. These "rules" are becoming mundane. Was on the dating market two years ago or so; never faced these issues. Then again, I rotated 3 or 4 at a time, so I really didn't care or notice. I was never considered clingy and rarely reach out; even now in a relationship I do not reach out much. Too busy doing sh!t working on my purpose. Some dudes care too much; I really couldn't care less if they stay, pray or stray. Plenty of fish in the sea (or pond). When you look like a top toad like me, its like shooting flies in a barrel.
 

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He is talking about after the first date brotha.
1st date, I would reach out a few days later to setup a second date and then go silent. Nearly always worked. They usually reached out during the silent period seeing what's going on. A few said I didn't hear from you so they wanted to reach out. I said, me setting up the date was my confirmation. Again, usually worked.
 

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1st date, I would reach out a few days later to setup a second date and then go silent. Nearly always worked. They usually reached out during the silent period seeing what's going on. A few said I didn't hear from you so they wanted to reach out. I said, me setting up the date was my confirmation. Again, usually worked.
I wonder what city and dating market you were in Rick. Also are you over 6ft tall and how young and hot were these girls? I'm not doubting that you had success doing your method. I am saying that your method will probably not work in a super competitive dating market like DC, San Fran or LA.

Or you might be a Chad light and anything you do would work because you are very good looking. There are many variables.
 

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1.- Triple book. Schedule a date with three different girls, more or less at the same time/place.
2.- If none of them flaked, go out with the hottest one and flake on the other girls.
3.- If a girl physically show up for a second date, it means she has interest. You are in the clear now. She will show up for future dates. Unless you lose interest in her or dont do or say anything to mess it up you will bang her sooner or later. She is now a plate in your rotation.

This has worked for me. Rinse & repeat.
Yes exactly. The 2nd date is the most difficult one to get. If you get a 2nd date you can usually get a 3rd.
 

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I wonder what city and dating market you were in Rick. Also are you over 6ft tall and how young and hot were these girls? I'm not doubting that you had success doing your method. I am saying that your method will probably not work in a super competitive dating market like DC, San Fran or LA.

Or you might be a Chad light and anything you do would work because you are very good looking. There are many variables.
He lives in CT. He's near the most affluent area of CT (Fairfield) that also has a lot of NYC commuters for work too. I suspect the dating pool there is much better than most areas of the country due to proximity to NYC and such. Meaning also much better looking women to choose from rather than fighting for the few scraps you see in places like the South for example that's got a lot of fatties and single moms.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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He lives in CT. He's near the most affluent area of CT (Fairfield) that also has a lot of NYC commuters for work too. I suspect the dating pool there is much better than most areas of the country due to proximity to NYC and such. Meaning also much better looking women to choose from rather than fighting for the few scraps you see in places like the South for example that's got a lot of fatties and single moms.
Yeh makes sense. Dating in the tri-state area is very easy compared to other markets. There is an abundance of women. Also, northern women are just more outgoing. I never had problems with tri state girls. Let someone come to DC and try that " I had a great time on our date etc". You will get ghosted so fast lol
 

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I wonder what city and dating market you were in Rick. Also are you over 6ft tall and how young and hot were these girls? I'm not doubting that you had success doing your method. I am saying that your method will probably not work in a super competitive dating market like DC, San Fran or LA.

Or you might be a Chad light and anything you do would work because you are very good looking. There are many variables.
NYC then Stamford/Bridgeport area. I'm 5'11''. The girls were 26 - 32. I'm nothing special, just a tadpole in a large sea.
 

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He lives in CT. He's near the most affluent area of CT (Fairfield) that also has a lot of NYC commuters for work too. I suspect the dating pool there is much better than most areas of the country due to proximity to NYC and such. Meaning also much better looking women to choose from rather than fighting for the few scraps you see in places like the South for example that's got a lot of fatties and single moms.
Most of Bridgeport is not affulent. Just because we have Greenwich, Cos Cob, New Canaan and Dairen CT, doesn't mean all of Fairfield is affluent. Even some parts of Stamford are still a bit sketchy. When fishing in those town's waters, standards seem to be very Manhattanish. However, I didn't care much if I got them or not. There was always a rotation and a new one wasn't far behind. Can't speak about LA or SF; never been to Cali. Doubtful I'd have an issue in Philly, Chicagoland or DC. I still believe it's how one holds oneself. No one wants a needy dude. Aggressive, sure, needy, no. As Tupac once said, a n**** needs to have his own life, not live through someone else's (direct quote).
 

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1.- Triple book. Schedule a date with three different girls, more or less at the same time/place.
2.- If none of them flaked, go out with the hottest one and flake on the other girls.
3.- If a girl physically show up for a second date, it means she has interest. You are in the clear now. She will show up for future dates. Unless you lose interest in her or dont do or say anything to mess it up you will bang her sooner or later. She is now a plate in your rotation.

This has worked for me. Rinse & repeat.
This is good.

Only snafu is how to get three single available decent looking girls with no kids no divorces to meet at the same time same place. Everything after that ice easy peasy Japanesy.
 

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Most of Bridgeport is not affulent. Just because we have Greenwich, Cos Cob, New Canaan and Dairen CT, doesn't mean all of Fairfield is affluent. Even some parts of Stamford are still a bit sketchy. When fishing in those town's waters, standards seem to be very Manhattanish. However, I didn't care much if I got them or not. There was always a rotation and a new one wasn't far behind. Can't speak about LA or SF; never been to Cali. Doubtful I'd have an issue in Philly, Chicagoland or DC. I still believe it's how one holds oneself. No one wants a needy dude. Aggressive, sure, needy, no. As Tupac once said, a n**** needs to have his own life, not live through someone else's (direct quote).
But overall women from the wealthier places like the Northeast, and out west like LA tend to take care of themselves more, less obese. From guys I've talked to who have visited LA they all tell me the women and men are less obese and more fit compared to Florida.

I imagine they're a bit snobbish though, especially when it comes to $$$.

I'm from St. Louis and even though MO is known as a hick state I will say the women, at least in the metro area of St. Louis are in MUCH better shape up there. Go to the gym and overall just better shape.

Not sure about DC the city. I suspect most live outside of DC and work there due to the high crime and uber high rent and housing cost in DC. DC is probably a pretty transient city with many of the decent women working for the government or lobbyist and firms. They probably are very snobbish and hang mostly with the elites in DC. Meaning you gotta be in the clique. I would think DC would be a terrible place for dating unless you have a great job which gives status with politicians. Like if you had a run of the mill decent job or a job in an unrelated field it would be hard to fit in.
 
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