"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Desperate need of mentor or wingman (Chicago)

Dapper Swindler

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I do the best I can but it's always been a solitary battle. My game is awful but I'm smart and enthusiastic. A mentor could really make a name for himself by turning me around. If you're the slightest bit interested, send me a pm and I'll state my case of why you should mentor me.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Lesson 1. Thread title a little desperate and needy.
 

Dapper Swindler

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Originally posted by Nighthawk
Lesson 1. Thread title a little desperate and needy.
lol Good point
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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My mailbox was full, my internet connection is broken, and my car is broken. Nothing is working for me at the moment but my phone. I'll pm my number
 

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Originally posted by Dapper Swindler
My mailbox was full, my internet connection is broken, and my car is broken. Nothing is working for me at the moment but my phone. I'll pm my number
damn dude, looks like you need to handle some biz before you go sarging ;)
 
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