"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Denied sex in a FWB relationship WTF?

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Me and her are in this open, friends with benefits relationship. As of right now we've just been seeing each other exclusivly. I'm thinking to not worry about all the emotional stuff and just go for the straight physical stuff since it's more of a casual relationship.

Well i'm going away for 6 days on a trip to Florida, I go to her house before she leaves for work so we can say goodbye. I'm thinking it would be the perfect opportunity for goodbye sex considering that we've had a lot of sex already before. We even had goodbye sex when we were boyfriend and girlfriend before she went away on her trip.

So we get into a hot and heavy make out session and I slip, "Wanna take this downstairs?" Then she stops and thinks about it and then she's says, "Can't we just hang out and lay here and not, I don't want my last moments with you sexually."

I feel like it's pointless to sit here and make out and not make progression towards something like sex. So i'm just like whatever and lay down. Awkward silence for about a minute or two goes by. Then she changes the topic.

We end up kissing again and she teases me, "You wish you could do more with me right now" and kisses me and we start making out more. I start playing with her pvssy and say, "I dunno, what about you?" She doesn't stop me and I go for her belt and pants and she helps take them off. Then i'm here, pleasing her only. Ugh. Then there's no time for anything else and I just leave and I won't see her again for 5 days.

I'm left confused again. She tells me she's going to miss me so much and all this stuff. I threw out this line, "I'll behave on my trip". She's replies, "Don't feel like you have to behave, I'm not holding you back, we're open."

Now she'll be calling me and texting me all the time just as usual.

Maybe i should tease her and act like i'm about to please her and then stop. I feel like it's all about her right now. I'm not getting laid as much but I usually end up finding time to please her only sexually.

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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I see alot of mistakes.

#1 you ASK her if she wants to go downstairs.
#2 your entertaining and giving merit to what she says
#3 she verbalises your willingness to fvck her (not a good sign), in the back of her mind she should be thinking if its not her snatch its going to be some other chicks you'll smash.
#4 she has taken charge

P.S try not to call it "FWB", thats chick speak to give FB a light and fluffy sounding name.
 
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couldn't pass basic LMR, next time don't stop just push through the making out, you seen you got the panties off so thats how you knew it was just her LMR.
 
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I was figuring i'd ask before I took the pants off this time because last time I took her pants off and went for the panties, she said, "Are we having sex?". I was like, "Are you serious?". Then i just hopped off of her and walked away.

She tottally kills moments all the time. She's immature i know. I need to find another girl to focus on.

I don't mention the words FWB around her. We call it a open relationship. But we just don't really talk about titles or anything like that. We just know we have each other. We'll probaly go back to serious boyfriend and girlfriend after the summer depending if i go away for college or not.
 
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I don't understand how you can be playing with a girl's pvssy, a girl you'e fvcked b4 so you should know her body, and yet she still refuses to fvck. Get some more options as the more needy you appear the more control she will have over you. This just looks like plain too much trouble
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Sounds to me like she is having sex with someone else and using you for amusement. She told you it is an open relationship right - you two aren't exclusive but for some reason you think it is - there is your problem.
 
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She's not with another person at all. I know what she is doing 24/7. Her parents have her on lock and school occupies her time during the week. Her only free time is spent with me and her girlfriends who I can confirm that she is 100% honest.

A lot of the problem it that we never really have the time and place for sex. Parents are always home at the same time. etc. So I try to take advantage of the time that we have no parents in the house and then it seems like she doesn't realise that having a house with no parents doesn't happen all the time, so take advantage.
 
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