"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Delivering the first kiss to a nervous wreck

MyTeamSupreme

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So I've hung out with this girl a handful of times but we've went on 2 dates. The first time I payed and the second time she payed. When we do hang out (starbucks, random meetups in the city) I always walk her to her door and end the night with a kiss on the forehead. When I do lean in i notice that she starts to fidget and gets really jumpy. Almost like a nervous tick but with a smile

Heres a quick rundown of how everything happens. I park outside of her building, we get out together, we walk to her door while talking about random stuff, I give her a hug, then I let go and hold her head gently with both hands on opposite sides, and I lean in for the forehead kiss...She smiles before and after but gets jittery as hell before I have a chance to kiss her forehead (This has happened about 3 times btw)

It makes me wonder if she might be nervous that I'm going to kiss her

Could that be a good thing or a bad thing? All thoughts or opinions are welcome
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Mantis Toboggan

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What's up with the forehead kiss, man?

Just grab your balls and dive in for the real thing. You're not going to get anything in dating or in life by making half-arsed moves.


It makes me wonder if she might be nervous that I'm going to kiss her

Could that be a good thing or a bad thing? All thoughts or opinions are welcome
Who knows, buddy. I find that instead of strategizing and analyzing as if we're planning the invasion of Moscow, it's better to just go for the kiss and see where it goes. All that forehead kiss nonsense....you're not her father, bro.
 

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dude, thats easy.....have a few drinks with her....get her relaxed...make her laugh....give her the eye contact (gaze into her left eye to hypnotize) then lean in and DO IT!!!
 

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She probably IS nervous that you're going to kiss her, but given that she's been out with you a few times, she seems to be interested/theoretically open to you kissing her. You just have to take charge. I went out with a girl who had been with the same guy for a decade (she was my age), and she basically started shaking her head and softly saying no when I went in for the kiss. I just said - confidently but not arrogantly - "it's going to be alright," and took charge. Once you're actually kissing her (and again, assuming she's interested), she'll relax and start to respond in kind.

Seriously, though, you don't want to get her acclimated to forehead kisses.
 

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yeah quit with the head kissing, I wouldnt be holding her head either ? just plant your lips on hers. If she turns away move on...you are trying to see if she is romantically interested in you...
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Mike32ct

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I know some guru (who shall remain nameless) suggests the forehead kiss, but IME, it doesn't work. I turned a few chicks off with it.

It MIGHT be ok with a LTR of a year, but absolutely not for a chick you are actively gaming.

Kiss her normally. Aim for the lips with the mouth as the target.

If she turns and gives you the cheek (worst case), print out her boarding pass for NEXT Airlines. Ding ding, she's been cleared for departure lol.
 

shizz702

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Yea never heard of forehead kissing, go for the lips. From what you are saying it sounds like she wants it anyway, lol and is probably wondering why you are kissing her for forehead.
 

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Its supposed to come off as very sweet and endearing...theres pages of info and reactions to it on google and the women are giving mostly positive results
 

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Mike32ct said:
If she turns and gives you the cheek (worst case), print out her boarding pass for NEXT Airlines. Ding ding, she's been cleared for departure lol.
thanks for the laugh...i needed that! :)
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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shizz702

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Well I guess I can see doing it the first time around but by the second you should be going for the mouth.

Don't get too caught up in what you read either, go with your own feeling and desire on the matter. Experience is the best and only real teacher.
 

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I've gone out with a few geeky girls who of course all their life have dated geeky AFC's. I show up like a boss and show these girls how a MAN conducts himself; knowing what you want (in this case a kiss close) and executing with confidence. It's a quick kiss, you're not putting your hand down her pants.... yet ;-)

And lose the forehead sh!t, you're not her dad.
 
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