"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I had a crazy Valentine's Day. It was full of a lot of interesting things. And I consciously tried to open with content based on things only me and a woman could talk about.
HB 8 Japanese
I saw her in the library and I had talked with her before. I started off talking about her calculator and teasing her over it. She seemed mildly interested in our conversaiton, but not a lot. Either way, I've been wanting to number close her. I said "Let's exchange numbers, we'll talk sometime later". She said "My phone isn't here, and I don't know my phone number. haha
HB 7 Blonde
I talked to her a couple times before from Philosophy class. I negged her over her not studying for the test and I used the same "Let's...etc" and she said we would do that later. I'll take that as a rejection.
And I said Hey to a girl in the cafeteria and she walked away.
I said Hey to an HB 8 while walking to History class, but my mind couldn't think of something to talk about outside of the "How're you doing" realm. So, in trying to improve my PU skills, I blew the approach.
I saw an HB 8 Asian I hadn't talked to before and I called her by my potential date's name on accident and messed up that approach.
Things were not looking good.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

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Then, on the way to the gym, I saw an HB Asian/Arab looking girl, and I said Hey, then I talked about her coat and how she was overdressed. She let me walk all the way back to her apartment while we talked about her native country why she was here, my major, and she was laughing and interested in our convo. I closed with the "Let's.." and she opted for talking on Facebook. I can't find her on Facebook, so I don't know what will happen. HB 7 Uzbekistan is her code name.
I saw an Asian American girl in the gym and approached her towards the front away from the weights and machines. I said referring to her shirt"Hey, you must be a sorority girl since you're wearing X shirt", and she immediately blew me off. I laughed about it.
And, finally, in the cafeteria, I saw a mixed black and white girl from Philosophy class. She had hugged me the previous time she saw me, and she did the same thing this time. She was with her friend, and she told me I should be wearing a Mexico shirt instead of a Spain shirt. Mixed black said she was part Mexican, and her black friend said she was part Puerto Rican. I ended up giving an accidental neg by saying "Puerto Ricans look better than Mexicans", and Mixed Black was shocked by what I said. But I hugged her and got her phone number anyways.
I had to walk through Hell today just to get one phone number, and a potential option. But, I'm prepared to improve and work to get to where I need to be. So, in the future, I won't have to walk through so much Hell just to get a number. What a Day!
 

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I've been having internal struggles over cafeteria approaching. Part of me says "Don't do it during this time". But then I see so many attractive women and opportunities, that I have to approach any place, regardless of the circumstances. That being said, yes, I did do a couple cafeteria approaches today. I could've done more, but this is all a lesson in learning.
HB 8 Blonde
She was sitting by herself, and I was having an internal struggle about approaching her. I opened with Hey, and hesitated slightly and said Hey, I like your blonde hair, it's a little like mine", and she let me sit down with her for lunch. She was very receptive to questions, teases, and conversation. She asked me questions as well. I teased her about her being a high maintenance girl because she was leaving quickly to get her nails down. That is why I didn't number close also. My mind was having an internal struggle over "Don't ask her, tell her", and I let her slip. The good thing is that I created good rapport with her and I see her around on a regular basis. And if I just get confident approaching attractive women, I should be set. Approaching and openers are half the battle. I'm getting comfortable teasing and gaming women.
 

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HB 7 Southeast Asian
I saw her while waiting in the hall outside class. I told her "Hey, how're you doing? You must not see well with those big glasses" Then we started talking about what classes we were going to. She seemed confused why I approached her, and I just told her I wanted to talk to you. I didn't get her name or number, but maybe I can build something in the future with her. If not, whatever.
HB 7 Smoker Taiwan
I saw her walking after I finished an SI Session. I walked beside her and we talked about her English class, and I teased her about mispronouncing words and concepts. We sat down together, then we went outside together. I told her "Let's exchange numbers", and she said she left her phone in the room. We're supposed to meet outside tomorrow at a certain time, then we will exchange numbers. Still, I wanted her number then. I don't trust females and their emotional states.
HB 8/9 Latina
I met her in cycling class last week, and I approached after class with "Hey, how're you doing? How is your sorority going", and we talked about that, how we were in our last semester, I teased her about taking an odd career path, but she left me like she wasn't interested in me. She must've smelled the pick-up attempt. I probably won't talk to her anymore since she's not interested.
HB 7 Volleyball Blonde
I approached her on instinct after our abs class. I said "Hey, how're you doing", you must play volleyball?" And she said, yes, she plays for the college. Then she said she had to go. No interest.
HB 7 Curly Mixed Black and White
I approached her in the cafeteria with "Hey, I think I've seen you in the H building before, and we talked about classes. Then I said I like your hair, but I'm not so sure it's natural, and she said it was. So, my neg failed, and she probably thinks I'm weird for approaching women I don't know. But, I don't care what these women think. I didn't get into PU to be everyone's friend, I came into it for success and learning.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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mustfirstregister said:
wow, you are really building a name for yourself in your college as a creepy guy. lol
lol It's better than being the guy who couldn't approach. It's all building towards something.
 

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wow, you are really building a name for yourself in your college as a creepy guy. lol

What makes you say that? He's just approaching girls. So what?
 

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I met up with HB 7 Taiwan Smoker and I got her number easily. She just held her phone up with her number written out, and I exchanged mine with her. I teased about her English once again, and we started talking about deeper subjects, like if I smoked. She said "You're a good boy then" I said "I'm not that good". I want to spend more time with her, she is fun to be around. I really need to start doing some kino with her the next time I see her.
HB 7 Blue
She was walking beside me while I was on the way to lunch and I said "I like your shirt, it's my favorite color". She said "I don't even like blue that much" and I said "There's something wrong with you then". We exchanged names right after that because she had to go to class, but all it took was 15 seconds of conversation for this to happen.
HB 7 Asian Shy
I went to a Haiku presentation for my Japanese class for two reasons. Extra credit and Asian women opportunities. I found this shy one on the computer. She was wearing a tank top and I opened with "Hey, you look like you're dressed for summer", and she didn't respond. So I had to get closer to her, and I asked her her major, and she talked so low, it was difficult. I could tell she wasn't into me. Gaming uncooperative girls is tough.
Then, I went to go run a couple miles at the rec center. I was just going to relax and run, but I knew if approach opportunities came up, I would take them.
I was running and a black girl came up running close to me and I told her "Are you trying to race me?" and she said she was. haha I told her "Good luck, I'm on my 13th lap". I ended up stopping to walk with her for a bit and I teased her about being in bad shape(she could barely run one lap), and we exchanged names as she left the place.
HB 7 Korean Runner
I saw her come in the place with a man, and I had mixed feelings on approaching her. I ended up seeing her stretching away from the track and I approached her there. I asked her how many laps did she run, and we started talking about Korean people I knew, our majors, etc... It was a decent approach and we exchanged names.
And I called HB 7 Korean Petite to clear up our date plans for this Friday. She didn't answer. I sent her a text assuming the sale and asking her if meeting at X time at X place in preparation was fine. I'm potentially taking her out to a good restaraunt, I don't know what her problem is if she flakes on me.
If HB 7 Petitie Korean doesn't answer, I think I will ask HB 7 Mixed Black and White to go out with me Friday. I'd like HB 7 Taiwan Smoker to go out with me Friday also, but I'd be breaking the 3-day rule, and I can't do that. So, once again, women treat me bad for some reason. They give me their numbers, agree to do things, and don't do them. This pisses me off, but I have to work through it.
 
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I went to breakfast in the cafeteria and I saw HB 8 Blonde sitting by herself. I decided to go sit by her and number close her after we got done eating.
She was in a hurry so she got my number and said she would text me. I closed with "Let's exchange numbers and we'll talk again sometime", and she agreed. But I won't believe until I get that text.
I saw a dark skinned girl that I thought was Indian or Middle Eastern so I approached her. Instead, she was a light skinned black girl. I said "You look like you're dressed professional today, do you have a speech to give?" She was laughing from the start and it was easy negging her about things. I didn't number close because it was like a one minute convo. But, it taught me that I need to position myself to where I can talk longer in a cold approach. Like taking a seat by her instead of just standing, etc...
I saw HB 7 Curly Mixed Black and White in the food court, and we started talking. She was open about a lot of things in her life to me. Her work, major, life in general. etc... and I was surprised she wanted to talk to me after my cold approach on her a couple days back. But, it never hurts to try. I want to talk to her some more.
 

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Yesterday's date plans didn't go so well. HB 7 Korean Petite was nice enough to call me and tell me that she had a Korean Club Meeting Friday at 5, but we rescheduled our date for Monday night instead.
I called HB Petite Mixed Girl and she answered the phone, but it sounded like she was at a party. She said she would call back but she never did. I'll call her Sunday night and try to set up a date/time for us together.
And I didn't see HB 7 Taiwanese Smoker, otherwise I would've asked her to go out with me tonight. I didn't call her about date plans because I didn't want to break the 3-Day Rule. I'll call her Sunday night and set up some plans for us this week. But HB 7 Mixed gets more priority over her aka first call, because she acts more affectionate towards me, and because I got her number first.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I wanted to do more approaching than I did, but a couple approaches aren't bad.
HB 6/7 White I saw her in the cafeteria so I approached her with "Hey, I see you walking around X building" and she said that we had class together last semester(I didn't know it, there were 50 people in there, but since I participate in class and sit up front, everyone knows who I am). We talked about our majors, life etc... And she burnt her hand on a waffle iron talking to me haha I negged her about that. I didn't get her name, but I'll keep talking to her.
HB 6/7 Black from Japanese class
I saw her walking into my room for her Japanese class(it being a level higher than mine). We talked about Japanese class in general, and I explained why I was in my class etc... I got her name, but my game isn't so tight in the morning time, especially for women that aren't that attractive.
I saw HB 7 Latina/Trainer and when she saw me she smiled and said Hi. I met this girl through a cold approach, so it's good to know that I created something through one 2 minute approach. I said "How's your Training job going" and about as soon as she answered, her cell phone rang. She's a nice girl, but she's always busy talking with people. It's hard to find her alone in the hallway, and I hate interrupting people, but I guess I will need to in order to get her number.
HB 7 Blonde Black
She was hanging around the game room when I saw her. I was in the middle of a pool game, but I still said "Hey, I like your hair, it looks like mine". She was laughing and into our conversation even if it was for about 30 seconds. We exchanged names.
On the fitness side, I've lost weight. I was weighing 178 when school started. Yesterday I weighed 172. Lifting weights, cycling, and running is paying off.
I have 2 girls to call Sunday night to set up dates next.
 

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Today, I went to the rec center and lifted weights and ran 2 miles because I won't have time to do that tomorrow. Tomorrow, I'll be in class for 5 hours, I'm going to a travel study presentation, and I have a date at a Chinese restaraunt with HB 7 Petite.
While at the rec center, I did a little field work.
I was running at the track when I saw this HB 7 blonde with short shorts on, and I couldn't resist. I went up to her despite her having headphones on and said Hey, and she ignored me. So, I kept running, and then I saw her off the track and I approached her said "I like your Dip n Dots shirt, it's funny that you'd wear it to a walking track though", and with her headphones on, she continued to ignore me. Whatever. At least I opened with something relating to her instead of "How much did you run?" LOL.
And one girl from a decent looking 2-set asked me if I wanted the lights on, and I said yes, I didn't like the dark. Immediately, she was laughing. So, I approached her and her friend and said to HB 6 Brunette "I like your Hard Rock Cafe shirt, I went to one in Gatlinburg, but it probably wasn't as good as yours in California. It was a good approach, but like most approaches in the rec center, you get a very limited amount of time to game women due to them being there to work out. I go there to work out too, but if approach opportunities present themselves, I should take them.
I also saw one girl in the weight room and didn't recognize her, but I approached her with "Hey, you look like you've been playing basketball today", and it was a girl I had recently cold approached. haha That means I've approached a lot already. But it was a decent approach with a friendly girl.

I called HB Petite Mixed Girl, but she didn't answer or call me back. I called HB 7 Taiwanese Smoker and she didn't answer. But, later she called me back, and I have a date with her Friday night at a Mexican restaraunt. I don't have the money to date 3-4 girls at once, but I'd like to at least spend some time with HB 7 Mixed Girl and see what happens. She's quite affectionate with me already. So if she is single, it shouldn't be hard getting her on a date.
 

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I saw this HB 7 Asian Curly Hair girl, walking by me so I said "Hey, you look like you've already worked out today" because she had on shorts shorts and she ignored me. I saw this HB 7 Middle Eastern girl that I had been saying Hey to as I passed her, though she has always ignored me. I saw her talking with her friends, and I didn't want to approach the whole 3-set, though I should have. I approached HB 7 Middle Eastern, touched her arm, said Hey, and was about to open when her eyes turned towards her friends and she ignored me.
Those were the blowouts for the day. I don't know why I get blown out a lot. My whole hair has now been dyed dark blonde and girls have been saying good things about it. I think it may be that I hesitate when I approach, and these HB's in their clicky *****y world, want someone outside of their social circle to WOW them just to have a chance. I have to quit hesitating and worrying that "OMG, those girls are going to know I'm hitting on them" Once I get past that, I will be good to go.
I saw HB 8 Black B Ball Girl in the cafeteria today. I had talked to her a couple times before. I opened with an opener relating to her looking like she was working out(Yes, I'm too robotic at times, but with so many girls with shorts shorts, it's not a bad one.) I talked with her for a little bit, but I don't think she is interested in me.
I saw an average looking black girl with dyed red hair, and I said Hey as we were walking and I talked about how our hair was dyed, and I played with her about taking boring classes. We exchanged names.
I would've done a couple more approaches, but that part of me inside that says "Don't approach unless you're walking by them, or near them" came out. I need to tell that part of me to shut up and just approach and not worry about the consequences. I'm not afraid of being rejected, I'm fearful of being socially ostracized.
 

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I had my first date tonight! It was with Korean HB 7 Petite. I may've come on a little too strong with my actions, but I was not needy. I opened the car door for her, then I kissed her on her cheek. Then we went to the Chinese restaraunt. I opened doors and pulled out chairs for her. We had good yet funny conversation the whole night. I had a good time, and dating isn't such a scary thing afterall. I would touch her hands and arms gradually throughout the night. She wanted to pay for her ticket, but I insisted that I do it, and I touched her hand while I said that. I paid for both of our meals. Then we got to my car. I wanted to kiss her on the lips, but she sensed what I was wanting to do and said "I don't want to kiss". Then I dropped her off at her place and opened the door for her. She got out of the car, hugged me and held my hand(quite ironic from the "I don't want to kiss" thing). While hugging her, I kissed her on the cheek again. I'm not sure what her interest level is, but I want to meet her again next week. We should watch a movie together so I can escalate things more. Until then. I have a Friday date with Taiwanese Smoker 7, and I may be hanging out with HB 7 Petite Mixed on Sunday.
 

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I approached a 2-set of Saudi Arabian women wearing head clothing because I must be crazy. Actually, they looked attractive and it is a good way to get out of my comfort zone. They were receptive towards me but when I introduced my name and extended my hand, the woman said "I can't". Culture must've had an impact there.
HB 7 American Asian
I had talked to her a couple times before, but this time I found out her name after cycling class. I found out she used to do cross country.
HB 6 Brunette
I saw her sitting down before abdominals class and I went and approached her. I talked about the class, then my friend came in and interrupted me because he just came in the class unexpectedly. I teased her later on about being clumsy and she said it was nice to meet me, but she didn't give me her name.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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HB 7 Mixed Black Asian
I stopped after I saw her walking up the steps. It was morning time, and I am not in a talkative state then. So I said "Hey, how're you doing?" And a couple seconds later I said "You're dressed like it's going to be cold". And she walked off. Morning time is not good for gaming.
HB 7 Dyed Hair White
I impulsively approached her and said "Hey, what class did you come from?" And we talked very briefly and she walked off. This wasn't my day for approaching.
 

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HB 7 Mixed Black Asian
I stopped after I saw her walking up the steps. It was morning time, and I am not in a talkative state then. So I said "Hey, how're you doing?" And a couple seconds later I said "You're dressed like it's going to be cold". And she walked off. Morning time is not good for gaming.
HB 7 Dyed Hair White
I impulsively approached her and said "Hey, what class did you come from?" And we talked very briefly and she walked off. This wasn't my day for approaching.
 

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HB 7 Mature
I saw her as I was walking in the cafeteria and said "Hey, I like your hair, it looks like mine", and we went into a conversation about hairstyling until she started talking to her husband. haha
HB 7 Taiwanese Petite
I saw her walking down the hall after I finished giving a tutoring session. I said "Hey, are you learning English here?" Then we went into conversation and her interest went from not interested the first 10 seconds to very interested after that. It's crazy! Just because I could be playful and I knew about her country. She asked for my name first. I could've gotten her number, but since I had a date with a Taiwanese girl set up at the time, I'd rather date one girl at a time from a social circle.
HB 6 Chinese
I saw her walking in the Fitness Center after I finished lifting weights. I said "Hey, how are you doing?" Then we went into conversation about her learning English and what she had to do. I teased her about her bad English and we exchanged names.
I saw an attractive Asian girl sitting down during a tornado warning drill. It turns out I had approached her and asked for her number before, but she didn't remember me. haha It was a good approach but it made me think that I've approached most of the girls I've wanted to on campus(that I know of.)
 

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HB 6 Blonde
I saw her walking and said "Hey, I like your hair, it's blonde like mine". After that, we talked about her hair being natural, what classes we were going to, and I teased her about taking an art class while being an English major. For a one minute conversation, I found out a lot about her. We exchanged names.
HB 6/7 Indian
I saw her walking down the hallway and said "Hey, how're you doing? I've seen you around her in the morning time when I have classes". Unfortunately, she was walking downstairs when it was almost time for class but I found what classes she had been taking. I need to talk with her more.
 

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I had a date with HB 7 Taiwanese Smoker. I took her to a Mexican restaraunt and it was her first time eating Mexican food. She liked it. It was a fun date. We talked about our backgrounds, and I helped her out with her English. I teased her a lot all through the night over a lot of things. She had even mentioned meeting more times with me. Then, when we were outside, I came up and kissed her. And she told me "I just want to be good friends". And then I negotiated with her about being involved with me. I told her we didn't need to be good friends in order to date. Cultural differences occured there. Since I paid for our meal tonight, she said she would pay for ours next week. I will probably give her another chance then.
I have a second date set up with HB 7 Korean Petite for next Friday.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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