"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Deeper rapport

oakraiderz2

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Yea, so i can hold a decent conversation, nothing amazing. I always have trouble getting deeper with the convo. I dont know why but i have no idea what to get deep with or how to approach it. Also, i have trouble sometimes have stuff to talk about after ive seen people a few times. I noticed one of my friends ALWAYS had something to talk about. I wanna be more like that, i feel likes its the missing piece if you will. So...any tips would be fantastico.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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If you always want something to talk about with people, tell them funny stories about your day. If you don't have any funny storie make them up.
 

mrRuckus

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DJ2006 said:
If you always want something to talk about with people, tell them funny stories about your day. If you don't have any funny storie make them up.

Yea man no better way to endear yourself to people than by lying to them.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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mrRuckus said:
Yea man no better way to endear yourself to people than by lying to them.
I'm right with you mrRuckus, WTF is going on in the forum?!! More and more threads are popping up giving advice that a guy should lie to cover up for his shortcomings. Doesn't anyone want to do any real work to enhance themselves any more? :mad:
 

penkitten

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would you like it if a woman lied to you to make herself look more appealing?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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penkitten said:
would you like it if a woman lied to you to make herself look more appealing?
You mean if her hair, nails, face, lips and eyes were somehow enhance between the time she woke up in the morning and the time she leaves the house? :p
 

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There are some good posts on bristollair.com on rapport. I think that the subject of rapport is (unfortunately) given only a cursory glance in the DJ/PU community. Perhaps someone who is well-versed could enlighten us?
 

Mission

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The best thing you can do is learn good vocabulary so you can tell good stories. If she tells you something, lets say she likes to ski. You hit her back with a story about skiing, but don't just say, "oh i like skiing too" say, "oh i love skiing! last winter i went on a ski trip with my good friends, one night we all went hot tubbing with a 12 pack of kokanee, let me tell you, drinking in a hot tub is a bad idea! we ended up going streaking right past the dining lounge!"

Now with that you have not only told a somewhat humourous story relating to skiing, but it shows you are fun and adventurous, it and it leaves her open to tell similar stories. Btw that is an actual event that happened to me, you shouldn't lie about your stories, if it is a boring story, make it ridiculous by making stupid things sound hilarious with good words.

--Mission
 

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Yeah, i've got to go with what Mission said here for deepening rapport.

To add to what was said you've got to tell stories that really engage her, that she can imagine in her mind. The stories must also relate to you and seem somewhat personal, as if your giving up little secrets. That's how you really deepen rapport i think, when the other person feels let into your world and hearing things that no one else would.

Also based on some psychological principles, if you give up something secret or personal, the other person usually feels more open to doing the same. Again making them feel more open to you, feeling more of a connection and deepening the rapport more.

Just remember that what you say has to have some relation to what the other person likes or you just end up pushing them away. Well unless the story is real good... it can be quite fun sometimes to tell the most over the top stories to someone to shock them, and see that it just pulls them in closer.
 
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