Deep Interactions with Women

[sorin]

I think the most important thing in seduction is the connection part...

So many people know how to attract but lose the sets after 5-10 minutes...

Deeply connecting to a woman is what matters most for her and for you in order to have sex with her...

I've coached guys and recently girls on how to properly connect to people and lead them in conversations.

This one girl thought she was boring but the fact was that she was only talking about facts, no feelings, vizualization, passion was in her stories therefore people thought she was boring.

There's more to a proper connecting model that can really skyrocket your success with people in general...

How do YOU connect and what do you think is most important when connecting?

Where do you fail in communication? Where do you lose the set ... Are there times when you're left out of things to say, not spontaneous enough?

it's because you haven't genuinely connected...

let's discuss this here, shall we?

 

[eyedogg]

Alright,

Let's discuss!

Tell me how I should start a deep connection with a girl in this situation:

At a local strip club. Tons of single females hang out (as well as guys of course).

Scenario:

A hot girl HB- 8.5 walks in. She know several peeps there (could be off duty stripper from another club?) She greets girls and guys a like. Next, she see's me and makes eye contact and quick smile. She continues her hello's and then settles in at a table close to where I am at the end of the bar watching Sportscenter. I ingore her and finally after about 10 minutes she makes her way towards me and then she ashs her cigerette right next to me. I turn my head to the side she is one she on and she is looking right at me - she smiles and says "hi". I smile back and say "hey".

What should I have done from there?

Because here is what I did:

I said hey and turned back to the TV. She then put her smoke out and half smiled and walked back to her table. I got looks from her the rest of the night but that was it.

Give me your advice.

Peace,
E.D.

 

[sexybeast]

Deeply connecting to a woman is what matters most for her and for you in order to have sex with her...

This is not true mate. you do not need deep connection to bed a chick. Attraction and fascination will do just fine.

I have to say, I think this is really miss leading for newer guys.

 

[Interceptor]

I think that we should focus on comfort level and trust, for criteria for bedding a woman.
(Perhaps the term "deep connection" is not the best phrase we can use in the alchemy of sexual relationship dynamics.)

These are also necessary for an LTR.
But deep connection does have a place in very heated, passionate affairs.
The rapport you have with a woman is important.
The less rapport, the less connection. And vice versa.
Obviously, the better your connection (rapport, comfort, trust) you have, the better chances you have of doing it all with her.
One thing though, sometimes a woman will withhold sex from a man she believes is LTR material.
I think it's simply easier for woman to not think too much of a fling or FB situation , if she only wants you for sex and nothing more.
Still every situation is really unique, and we can only do the best we can given the circumstances.

 

[sorin]

@ eyedogg,
You need to get your conversational skills in shape...
the girl smiles and said hi, she even sat next to you... she wanted you to lead the conversation!
She showed you she is opened for connecting and whatever that may lead to, if you lead it to anything otherwise all you get is what you got, smiles and eye contacts inviting you to have balls and do something!

If you had been relaxed enough I'm sure you could have chatted around and then could've gone for a deeper connection. What were your thoughts at the present moment? Share some experience about yourself and then allow her to connect with that (emotional experience preferably), because she was already interested and it'd have been easy.

She saw you're not man enough to start up a conversation with her and went back, of course.
If you want I can coach you with conversational skills or you can face the uncomfortable feeling until it feels uncomfortable although that may take a longer time.

@ sexybeast,
you say attraction and fascination is enough...
what does fascination mean and how do you obtain it?
if you just talk about yourself and not let her open up, if you just boast... you might get girls here and then and only for one night stands... if you don't connect deeply she knows she can't stay next to you a long time unless she's a party chick and really enjoys sex with you.

@ Interceptor,
You seem to have gotten it .
About the LTR thing and postponing the sex... it's really all about her...
If she thinks she'll make a better impression if she gives you sex later... you can talk her out of it like I did with my ex ... Emotional Talk not Rational!

I'm glad you guys realize just how important connecting with a girl is!
More important than anything else in the "alchemy of sexual relationship dynamics" .

 

[sexybeast]

sexybeast,
what does fascination mean and how do you obtain it?
if you just talk about yourself and not let her open up, if you just boast...

I obtain fascination mainly through not not talking about my self much, not giving away alot about myself, being the sexual prize and I'm a challenge for her which is rare for a girl. So basically its curiosity that builds facsination, and heavy flirting that builds massive attraction.

When I first meet a girl I'm very sexual and always escalating physically I don't have much interest in deep connection before I sleep with a girl... I've actually found that girls don't give a sh*t either.

I view girls just like men when it comes to sex... they want it/need it just as much as we do, if not more, so thats the rout I will take it. Any deep connection will come after we have sex.

My approach is direct and i have only one goal in-mind when I see a chick and that is to f*ck her silly, that night, day2, day3 ect so i have based my game around that.

make any sense? My writing skills suck!

 

[eyedogg]

Sorin,

Thanks for the input. I was not relaxed and was thrown off by her approaching me so directly (although I shouldnt be as this happens more often then not). So, what are some examples of what you say to a popular female at a strip club?

E.D.

 

[sorin]

Here's an article about our previous conversation about deep connections

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=157074

 

[SharinganUser]

I obtain fascination mainly through not not talking about my self much, not giving away alot about myself, being the sexual prize and I'm a challenge for her which is rare for a girl. So basically its curiosity that builds facsination, and heavy flirting that builds massive attraction.

When I first meet a girl I'm very sexual and always escalating physically I don't have much interest in deep connection before I sleep with a girl... I've actually found that girls don't give a sh*t either.

I view girls just like men when it comes to sex... they want it/need it just as much as we do, if not more, so thats the rout I will take it. Any deep connection will come after we have sex.

My approach is direct and i have only one goal in-mind when I see a chick and that is to f*ck her silly, that night, day2, day3 ect so i have based my game around that.

make any sense? My writing skills suck!

I agree whole heartedly, as I have sex with women who don't even speak english. It's really not what you say, but how you say it. Body language and touch is the best way to build a connection.