"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Dedicated nightclubs for fat chicks? WTF?

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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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How many women accepted me when I was "plus-size" in my teens? Oh yeah, none.

Not saying people should be fat shamed, but it annoys me that with women being out of shape is now considered something to "own", whereas men are expected to look like jacked f*cking Olympians or GTFO.

Also the normalisation of being unfit is kind of messed up too. You should strive for personal fitness, this whole thing of "fit but fat" is mostly nonsense. Even just having large rolls of abdominal fat makes you prone to cancer.
 

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I had a male friend who was a bouncer at one of these places. The fatties got in free, the guys had to pay. He said no thin girls ever came.

Just more "I am special"....."I might be 5'2", 200lbs but I'm a unicorn"...."I'm a snowflake"...."I need special treatment because I'm too lazy to get off my ass and correct my problem". I can't stand that Me Me Me schitt.

The optimist in me hopes that this will be a good thing. Create a special place where the fat girls and beta chumps can go. Leave the other
venues for the attractive women and the guys that have value. Good way to sort the herd, and eradicate what doesn't need to be there.
Kind of like how they do it in baseball with the minor and major leagues.
 

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I had a male friend who was a bouncer at one of these places. The fatties got in free, the guys had to pay. He said no thin girls ever came.

Just more "I am special"....."I might be 5'2", 200lbs but I'm a unicorn"...."I'm a snowflake"...."I need special treatment because I'm too lazy to get off my ass and correct my problem". I can't stand that Me Me Me schitt.

The optimist in me hopes that this will be a good thing. Create a special place where the fat girls and beta chumps can go. Leave the other
venues for the attractive women and the guys that have value. Good way to sort the herd, and eradicate what doesn't need to be there.
Kind of like how they do it in baseball with the minor and major leagues.
The "I'm just naturally a big girl" thing bemuses me when girls who are genuinely obese say it.

I was "naturally" a fat guy, then I got off my arse and worked out every day, hard. Then I was "naturally" a fit guy.

I don't believe in all the outdated ectomorph, endomorph bulls***. You are what you do physically, your genetics just control minor details of the end result of that hard work (I.e. whether you have a 5 pack or 6 pack). These girls might have larger hips or curvier frames, but the whole "I'm naturally morbidly obese, own it." thing is ridiculous.
 

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The "I'm just naturally a big girl" thing bemuses me when girls who are genuinely obese say it.

I was "naturally" a fat guy, then I got off my arse and worked out every day, hard. Then I was "naturally" a fit guy.

I don't believe in all the outdated ectomorph, endomorph bulls***. You are what you do physically, your genetics just control minor details of the end result of that hard work (I.e. whether you have a 5 pack or 6 pack). These girls might have larger hips or curvier frames, but the whole "I'm naturally morbidly obese, own it." thing is ridiculous.
It's a cop out and an excuse.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I think women really believe that they can convince men that being fat is attractive. Why wouldn't they? Every-time the chick collective speaks, white knights and chumps line up to support them.

Affirmative action was created to level the playing field so black men could compete fairly for opportunity.... then White chicks, the most privileged demographics in the US, convinced the powers that be that they need this too! And we gave it to them... now we have to listen to the chick collective whine about 'equal pay' because a Nuclear Engineer makes more than a Kindergarten Teacher.

This whole fat acceptance silliness just goes against biology. There isn't enough Viagra in the world to get me up for a land whale.

It just fvcking kills me laughing when chicks ask me how they can't find decent men.... Jesus fvcking Christ. All a chick has to do is lose weight and be nice, and a little submissive.... THAT'S IT! And they would have more options with men than they know what to do with.

But when I TELL THE TRUTH, I am called a misogynist @sshole. "How dare you suggest that fat @ss chick lose weight and be a little respectful and nice!" I've said it before and I'll say it again...

"You go girl and be your fat and sassy self!"

Is the WORST relationship advice ever given to any chick.
 

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I think women really believe that they can convince men that being fat is attractive.
IMO, one of the most insidious ideas is that there is no such thing as biology or DNA.

The idea itself isn't so bad, as it's just an opinion. But it becomes extremely dangerous when large amounts of people start to believe it.

Meaning girls actually start to believe that female beauty is ONLY due to social conditioning. I would suspect that BILLIONS of women today actually believer that the only thing that makes a woman beautiful is what society thinks, and since society (fashion, movie industry) etc. is run by a certain demographic, it is THOSE PEOPLE who created the "idea" that a certain type is "beautiful."

And the ONLY THING they need to do is create enough social momentum that "fat is beautiful" and so long as enough people believe that, it will become so.

Fat chicks ACTUALLY BELIEVE they can be perceived as naturally and automatically attractive as traditionally gorgeous chicks.

This is idiotic, but the problem is that plenty of women can go either way.

But instead of putting in the effort to get into shape, work on their natural femininity, they eat like hogs and spend all their energy trying to convince others that FAT IS BEAUTIFUL.

And because they can get laid, and get male attention, THEY THINK IT'S WORKING.

They don't realize that most dudes consider banging a fat chick only marginally better than banging their fist.

If you hypnotized the average dude, he'd probably bang a tree stump if he thought it was a sleeping fat chick.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I only bang fat chicks when they are easy slvts, not worth my time or attention otherwise. I can't imagine the men in those clubs go there for any other purpose
 

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Meaning girls actually start to believe that female beauty is ONLY due to social conditioning. I would suspect that BILLIONS of women today actually believer that the only thing that makes a woman beautiful is what society thinks, and since society (fashion, movie industry) etc. is run by a certain demographic, it is THOSE PEOPLE who created the "idea" that a certain type is "beautiful."

And the ONLY THING they need to do is create enough social momentum that "fat is beautiful" and so long as enough people believe that, it will become so.

Fat chicks ACTUALLY BELIEVE they can be perceived as naturally and automatically attractive as traditionally gorgeous chicks.
Yep... completely agree. Chicks love to trot out the old paintings of women that were a little over weight and point out that back then, fat was attractive.... No it wasn't. Being a little over weight was a sign of wealth and leisure since back then it was not uncommon for people to be one bad crop from famine. There are almost no paintings of average people because only the wealthy could afford artist commissioning. Lily white skin was also a sign of wealth and affluence because if you had a tan... it meant you worked outside. Now a 'tan' is a sign of leisure. Fat was never a sign of attractiveness, only a condition that was preferable to starvation.

Chicks really are social creatures and care a whole lot more about what other people think than men do. So they do believe society shapes perception, rather than perception shaping society. Just look at magazine covers... look at chick magazines.... it's HOT CHICKS on the covers of CHICK magazines.... Why? Because chicks themselves are more attracted to hot chicks... hell we are ALL attracted to those biological features that indicate fertility. If Vogue or Cosmo or name-a-chick-mag, started putting picture of old fat chicks on the covers... chicks wouldn't by the magazine.

Hots chicks are all over the media, not because of a corrupted patriarchy... but because this is what people want to see.
 

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i banged a fat chick once, when I was 18... that shvt looks like a fvcking pig in heat and feels like banging a sack of Jell-o

Im 52 now and refuse anything thats not HWP and you are automatically out if they:
1. fit or cant fit in my jeans because FAT
2. weigh more than me 165lb... at that weight they better be 5'10 or taller

FAT chix are for beta cucks .
 

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Lost my V to a fatty. Wiped the slime off my d1ck on her balcony. The white of the balcony paint really accentuated the greenish tinge to the slime.

I was 18. Never again.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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So an equal number of men go there and they're not all fat. That's what I took out of this - some guys like big girls.

Now they have their own place to meet each other.

Big deal.
Though actually this gives you another interesting gender dynamic: fat girls can get skinny/fit guys easily. 3/4 of girls there are fat, and 1/4 of guys...and you can bet those 3/4 of girls are still pulling whatever guy there they want.

On the flipside I can say from personal experience in the past that being a fat guy, even a fat guy with intelligence and humour...you're very, very unlikely to sleep with a slim, athletic woman anytime soon. Or any woman. Or even get a kiss.

Took me 4 years of busting my arse in a gym before I could even get a girl to kiss me. Nothing about my personality changed. I've never heard of a fat girl who's gone that long without even a glance from a man.

Not ranting at the girls or blaming them for getting what they want, it just frustrates me when I see some girls complain how hard the dating scene is...even when they're heavily overweight they can get sex with a fit guy pretty much whenever they click their fingers in a club.

I can be built and fairly good looking and even then I'm lucky if a chick gives me a glance in a club, I've been clubbing about 10 times and I think I had a girl dance with me once. If I was still fat, I wouldn't have a hope in Hell.
 
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Though actually this gives you another interesting gender dynamic: fat girls can get skinny/fit guys easily. 3/4 of girls there are fat, and 1/4 of guys...and you can bet those 3/4 of girls are still pulling whatever guy there they want.

On the flipside I can say from personal experience in the past that being a fat guy, even a fat guy with intelligence and humour...you're very, very unlikely to sleep with a slim, athletic woman anytime soon. Or any woman. Or even get a kiss.

Took me 4 years of busting my arse in a gym before I could even get a girl to kiss me. Nothing about my personality changed. I've never heard of a fat girl who's gone that long without even a glance from a man.

Not ranting at the girls or blaming them for getting what they want, it just frustrates me when I see some girls complain how hard the dating scene is...even when they're heavily overweight they can get sex with a fit guy pretty much whenever they click their fingers in a club.

I can be built and fairly good looking and even then I'm lucky if a chick gives me a glance in a club, I've been clubbing about 10 times and I think I had a girl dance with me once. If I was still fat, I wouldn't have a hope in Hell.
You're right. It doesn't work the other way around unless you have money or something perhaps.
It's a sh*t double standard.
This is why I roll my eyes when some women go on about the pressure to look perfect for men and say men don't have this pressure.

Being fit is far far better in the long run regardless, for both genders.
 

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Why stop there? Let's all pitch in and buy them their own island to live on!!! yay!!!:p
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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