Decoy: The Duck Hunt

[Decoy]

In light of last couple of beta dates I've been on, I would like to turn to the Mature Men for guidance. I would consider my understanding and application of game between novice and intermediate. My success has been decreased lately and have to figure out how to improve it.

I few months prior, I remember getting an HB 8 for a simple coffee date at 3PM and ended up fvcking at her apartment 3 hours later. It was the bold moves and the bold conversations I had. (Slapping her on the ass, putting my leg on hers, sexual conversations with no remorse) This is the mojo I need to find.

First Date #1

Good:
- Kino
- 2 Venues
- Strong eye contact
- Kiss close at the end

Bad:
- Never controlled the frame
- Never had her qualify herself
- Paid for everything

Beta Bad:
- Got drunk and text her the next day 'Do you think we click?'

You guessed it, no response.

First Date # 2

Same as date number 1, but kissed closed in the middle and made out when I dropped her off. She even leaned in for the second makeout right after. Same result, no contact from her. No contact from me.

First Date tonight

HB7 5'7"
Strong family values
Sh!tty job
Very high moral responsibilities

Introduction text banter
Call to set up time and date (No venue yet)

I decided to take a different approach on this one. More on the spectrum of jerk, if you will.

Next day text (2 days before the date)
Happy Monday! How was your day?
I bet I smell better right now
That depends I smell like juicy couture what do you smell like?

I responded the next evening with simply the venue
She agreed
Texted her 'Change of plans' this morning
Wait a couple of hours after her response for new venue
Confirmed.

The plan:

- Dress sharp
- Subtly inject she is buying the second rounds
- Have wandering eyes for other females
- Tease the hell out of her
- 80/20 conversation
- Heavy Kino
- No kissing before we get back to my place

 

[Decoy]

She texted that she was there.
Me: Uh oh, guess the first round is on me

Conversation snippets in the beginning:

I'm almost a year older than you...
You're right, I usually date younger chicks.

Childish things? My best friends have sleepovers
Are any of them hot?

After some conversation we went bowling, she paid.

2 connected seats and 1 loner seat, which her purse was on. During the first two frames she would bowl then sit on the loner seat in front of her purse. I withdrew every ounce of attention I had during the time. She sits on the seat next to me and I began to show more attention to her. Playful competitive teasing turns into heavy teasing. Soft kino here and there.

<Music Stops>

She is on FaceTime with her sister. Her boyfriend just proposed to her in Mexico. I sit there thinking, why the fvck why? Like a pigeon flying over a baseball stadium, just to take a sh!t on me. Chick gets full blown ADHD. Decoy becomes a decoy.

I said this bores me, let's do childish things. I take her to Chuck e Cheese. She feels like a kid again. I win tickets and give them to the less fortunate minority with 4 kids. Awwww that's really nice of you. Twirl that moral savvy chick around and kiss. She holds onto my arm like we were BF and GF, gay stuff.

It was getting late and I dropped her off at her car. DEJA VU TIME 100! Same sh!t different face. She says I had a good time, It was fun, I kicked your butt in bowling....then she runs out of things to say. Just sits there in my car looking at me. Ahhhh Fack. Some consolidation is better than nothing. Pull her in and kiss her. She's satisfied and I write my disappointing field report. Chick is probably hardcore Facebooking right now.

What I learned:

- Tooooooooo many 'fun' activities
- Kino the fvck sooner

I simply went beta to show her a good time, instead of trying to show her my d!ck. I just don't fvcking know how to snap out of this sh!t! I want the SNL, but I'm afraid of coming on to strong to ask for it.

FACK!

 

[Decoy]

Double

 

[Decoy]

Double

 

[Bible_Belt]

I remember getting an HB 8 for a simple coffee date at 3PM and ended up fvcking at her apartment 3 hours later. It was the bold moves and the bold conversations I had.

Good job. And I don't mean this as taking away from your success, but in addition to making the right moves, you also found a woman who wanted to fvck. Although of course bad moves could have screwed it up, having a woman who wanted sex in the first place was the biggest determining variable.

And don't think of it as this woman wants sex, that one doesn't. It changes like the weather in regard to each woman. Some women will make you think they're a prude for weeks, then hit the time of the month that they're horny enough to fvck a guy they barely know; and suddenly the prude is a porn star.

Dating sucks. Everybody feels that way. It's a ridiculous pretense. No one wants to be dating. Men want sex, and women want intimacy, typically the kind that comes with sex. But nothing about dating is about filling those needs. You will find that guys who are good with girls don't really date; they just fvck. And girls who are good with relationships won't date very long.

As for practical advice, I would say to try to avoid the "we are on a date" frame completely if you can. Spend time with her in order to build emotional intimacy, but make her wonder if it is a date. She can join you in something you would already be doing anyway. You can even get away with doing traditional date things like buying her dinner, as long as she believes that you are doing it on impulse. "Hey I'm hungry! Let's eat" is the way to take a girl out to dinner. It's also a lot more fun, which is the fast track to building the emotional intimacy that gets you sex.

 

[Decoy]

I remember getting an HB 8 for a simple coffee date at 3PM and ended up fvcking at her apartment 3 hours later. It was the bold moves and the bold conversations I had.

Good job. And I don't mean this as taking away from your success, but in addition to making the right moves, you also found a woman who wanted to fvck. Although of course bad moves could have screwed it up, having a woman who wanted sex in the first place was the biggest determining variable.

That would be correct, my fvck-o-meter went off within 30 minutes of meeting her. (I was on a 2 month dating hiatus, so this signal must have been very blatant) From there, I was able to sexually engage her - meaning I was more dominant and talked/treated her like a slvt.

The trouble is subtly having her convey that she wants to fvck me.

Dating sucks. Everybody feels that way. It's a ridiculous pretense. No one wants to be dating. Men want sex, and women want intimacy, typically the kind that comes with sex. But nothing about dating is about filling those needs. You will find that guys who are good with girls don't really date; they just fvck. And girls who are good with relationships won't date very long.

I really think of dating as an intermediary between intimacy and sex. After the first date, if they want to hang out with me again, most likely they seek intimacy from me. If it is not making out or groping on the second date, I don't don't see any reason for me to continue.

As for practical advice, I would say to try to avoid the "we are on a date" frame completely if you can. Spend time with her in order to build emotional intimacy, but make her wonder if it is a date. She can join you in something you would already be doing anyway. You can even get away with doing traditional date things like buying her dinner, as long as she believes that you are doing it on impulse. "Hey I'm hungry! Let's eat" is the way to take a girl out to dinner. It's also a lot more fun, which is the fast track to building the emotional intimacy that gets you sex.

I have been practicing spontaneous dating, whatever comes out at the top of my mind during the date. It might be that I am doing too many activities, rather than focusing on building emotional intimacy. These are pretty much my first date process.

1) Drinks and conversation
2) Activity
3) Change venue
4) Conversation
5) Drop her off / 5-10% SNL

What I think I am doing is during 4) Conversation is that I am struggling to open the intimacy conversation. Or if I do, she changes the topic. I know I should re-engage, but 'give up.' That's something I need to work on. I notice that if it isn't going anywhere, I cut bait and kiss close in hopes for that second date.

As for the date yesterday, I am not sure if I am putting the pieces together correctly, but -

When she found out her sister was getting married, she said almost all my friends are married. Her emotions and excitement are at an all time high. At the same time, her desperation of being the only single in her group at age 27 could have jolted her hamster that very moment (Risk-taking and pleasure-inducing activities.) I *should* have escalated to sex.

Does it make sense or am I going off the deep end?