"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Decode ******** for me

ohiobohio518

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I made out with a HB9 last Friday - we were both really drunk. The last thing I wanted to do was to take advantage of her, so I didn't make a move until she provoked me and asked me if I'm gay. I was like, O HELL NO, and just reacted and kissed her.

Anyway, the next day she texted me apologizing for being a ****show, and told me she had fun and thanked me for inviting me to the party.

I responded back many hours later saying that I had a great time and that we should hang out again. No response.

I gave her 48 hours and still got no response, so I called her to see what's up. We small-talked for a couple minutes and she brought up that night. I don't remember verbatim what she said, but it was along the following:

a) Sorry for being really drunk
b) Sorry if I embarassed you in front of your friends because I was a ****show
c) I kissed you. (I'm sorry (?)) I don't want to be awkward but please don't judge me, I'm usually not that kind of girl. I don't want to send the wrong impression.

To which I responded along the lines of don't worry about it, it's not a big deal.

First of all, she didn't kiss me. I kissed HER. She may have provoked the kiss, but I kissed her first. I am just confused now because if she was trying to tell me that it was a drunken mistake, she did a pretty bad job. Or did she? She said nothing about being friends.

I asked her to hang out this Thursday but she already has plans with her friend who is going abroad - legit excuse. She is leaving Friday for spring break and won't return for a week. She said we should hang out then.

If it helps any, she always seems genuinely interested in both personal and phone conversations.

Lost cause?

P.S. I asked a trustworthy mutual friend to do some digging. Please let me know if this is a lost cause so I can call it off and avoid embarassing myself.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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ohiobohio518

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Update:

She just texted me-
"I didnt mean it to come off like me and the girl wanted to hang out by ourselves. You should come hang out with us"


I feel like I should be like.. no, I just wanted us to hang out. except how do i do that in an eloquent way? she texted me so i must text back
 

Bible_Belt

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You're too busy right now, but will be in touch.

The last thing I wanted to do was to take advantage of her

My ears are ringing from all the alarm bells. Why the fvck not? That should be more like the prime directive than the last thing you want to do. Let me key you in on a little secret:

she wanted you to take advantage of her

That's right. Women like sex, too. But they feel guilty about it, so they intentionally get themselves at least a little drunk so that they have an excuse afterward - they're not a slvt, just drank a little too much.

I'm not telling you to go rape some unconscious puking chick, but her having a little bit of booze in her should be a green light, not a red one. Don't let a woman down the next time she wants to be taken advantage of, or else she will go find another guy that same night who will give her what she wants.
 

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I know.. I just had one bad experience of a girl accusing me of like molesting her when I clearly didn't. and I've been hesitant since.

I said no with a really good excuse to her text.

If anyone can answer my original question that'd be great.
 

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well, its difficult to say whether its a lost cause or not... I would say, try flirting, teasing and being C&F with her...get things light hearted and bubbly and fun, rather than all this serious apologising and sh*t.

Hopefully if done its well received, you will find she'll be chasing you, and trying to make plans with you.

Good Luck!
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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