"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Deciding what to do.

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My wife and I are in a Dom/sub lifestyle (in and out) as well as have a contract (not like the 50 shades bullcrap...that is a joke). Within the contract there is multiple sections (not going to list them all as there is 12 sections) like Dom rules, sub rules, guidelines, extension of contract, list of disciplinary actions/punishments,etc. Each rule/guideline has a list "violation scale" depending on the type of rule or guideline. I.E. "The sub shall respect the Dom at all times." That is a Severe scale 1, "The sub shall not ask for permission to orgasm while pleasing her Dom. The Dom will let his sub know when and if she may orgasm." That is Mediocre scale 2. The scale goes as follows: Minor Scale 1 (S1), Minor Scale 2 (S2), Mediocre S1, Mediocre S2, Severe S1 and Severe S2. When she violates a rule/guideline, the disciplinary action is determined by the severity of the scale. A Disciplinary Action list has the type of discipline listed based on the scale of the violation. If she commits more than one violation, then they are added up. If it exceeds Severe S2 on the scale, then we refer to the Punishments list. It is an almost full proof system (for us).

The issue at hand is this, recently she pitched one of her tantrums and violated 16 of the 51 rules/guidelines. After we added everything up, it came to 5 Punishments. I gave her the options of picking all five punishments from 7 types of punishments on the list, or we can go with the 8th type of punishment, which is the Dom decides a fitting punishment that is not on the list) and knock it down to just 2 punishments. She chose to pick her own. One of the punishment is loss of privileges for an amount of days not to exceed 7 days. So, the part that became the issue is this, I took the dogs out and when I came back in she was one her phone, wbich she is suppose to ask permission to do seeming she has lost her privileges. In doing so she violated two rules/guidelines. The part that i am having trouble deciding is this: I already do not like disciplining/punishing her, but she blalently violated the current punishment being administered. So do I add another punishment that is harsher than any of the five she picked from the list (to be administered today), or do I be lenient and just let it go?

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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Seems like the Dom part of the role is for the person whom desperately needs to feel in control. Interesting
 

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Insightful reply. The sub has more control than the Dom in a lifestyle. The sub holds the ultimate control. However, that does not offer any insight in regards to the subject at hand. It is flippant at best.

I posted the thread because I am torn and would like some thoughts from others in regards to the issue at hand.

However, you are not wrong. I do need to be in control. She also retains an amount of control...to a point. She does not necessarily need to be in control, she highly stresses when she has no control. That being said, she knows at the end of the day, if need be, if things become too much she can stop it.
 
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Thoughts?
These are the sorts of problems that crop up (no pun intended) when people take bedroom fetishes and try to apply them during regular life.
 

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I think you need to find out the root of her continued misbehavior. A submissive should *want* to obey and please their Master. Unless you enjoy a perpetual brat, she should be obeying almost 100% of the time. Any amount of punishment, corporal or not, will not solve repeated disobedience. If she doesn’t want to please you anymore, you’ve got a deeper issue than what punishment to pick. Shoot me a PM. i am a LS sub with some experience.
 
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A dominant man asking for permission?

Just punish her by turning her over ur knees, smack her sexy ass until she cries and then ask her if she wants to be loved, if there's no reply, smack harder until she submits and pleads for your love, only then you slowly caressed her round sexy ass, soothingly reassuring her, expertly making her wet with ur fingers and words.

Then you fvck her roughly like a caveman, just to remind her who's the boss.
 

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Insightful reply. The sub has more control than the Dom in a lifestyle. The sub holds the ultimate control. However, that does not offer any insight in regards to the subject at hand. It is flippant at best.

I posted the thread because I am torn and would like some thoughts from others in regards to the issue at hand.

However, you are not wrong. I do need to be in control. She also retains an amount of control...to a point. She does not necessarily need to be in control, she highly stresses when she has no control. That being said, she knows at the end of the day, if need be, if things become too much she can stop it.
If the sub has the ultimate control why aren't you just allowing her to break the rules as she wishes? Why the post? She's doing what SHE wants to do
 

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If the sub has the ultimate control why aren't you just allowing her to break the rules as she wishes? Why the post? She's doing what SHE wants to do
Once again...if you understood how actual REAL Dom/sub works then you would understand that phrase.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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A dominant man asking for permission?

Just punish her by turning her over ur knees, smack her sexy ass until she cries and then ask her if she wants to be loved, if there's no reply, smack harder until she submits and pleads for your love, only then you slowly caressed her round sexy ass, soothingly reassuring her, expertly making her wet with ur fingers and words.

Then you fvck her roughly like a caveman, just to remind her who's the boss.
That would be a TPE lifestyle. And no one said anything about me asking for permission...i was asking for opinions...but evidently, no one here understands how actual Dom/sub works. There are only two lifestyles that allow what you just described.
 

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That would be a TPE lifestyle. And no one said anything about me asking for permission...i was asking for opinions...but evidently, no one here understands how actual Dom/sub works. There are only two lifestyles that allow what you just described.
It's not working because u r play acting a role.

If u r truly a dominant man, there's no need to ask for permission from the submissive when it's you meting out the punishment, you'd just do it.

All these indecision doesn't fit the mould of a dominant personality.

And she's picking on it, too bad for you.
 

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Did she have a tantrum like This?
 

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It's not working because u r play acting a role.
Exactly. This has to come from inside. You don’t do it to please her, you do it because it pleases you.

When it comes up against your programming and that desire to be the loving male, you have a conflict.
You need to give her your version of love. Deepen the connection that comes with it. Tap into the primal man. She wants the primal man that’s in you.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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My God... Were there no warning signs?
I suspect you are a dominant Atom Smasher. Passives don’t recognize them until after the dust settles or they choose to bypass them for the sake of the intense closeness.
 

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Did she have a tantrum like This?
That's fvckin hilarious. She's crying because she wants him to delete the recording yet she doesn't realize he will have nothing to record if she would just ..... Stop
 
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