Hello Friend,

If this is your first visit to SoSuave, I would advise you to START HERE.

It will be the most efficient use of your time.

And you will learn everything you need to know to become a huge success with women.

Thank you for visiting and have a great day!

Decided to delete my tinder after more poor experiences from that

skinnyguy

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I get invited to parties, weddings, club/business openings, art shows, fashion shows, charity events etc.

I get those in small towns or big cities.

It ain't about location.

You should ask yourself why is ur sphere of influence so small that u r not regularly invited to social events.

In any social event, there is always a throng of beauties all dolled up just to be noticed.

Always.
So true. And it's much better than tinder because you've already passed a bunch of tests if women see you at those. I've gotten tons of interest at charity events that were thrown by rich people. And weddings - especially if you're related to someone important - too easy.
 

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Dance class is a good idea. If a woman in your class is showing interest just tell her you are going to this club on Thursday to practice your skills and she should come, if she says yes, get her number and then escalate at the club.

You can use Tinder to practice conversation with women. Date a few hb 5 or 6’s just to get comfortable with talking to women. It’s a good opportunity to try out your flirting skills. It will also build confidence.

The fastest way to improve yourself in the women department is to talk to every single woman you run into, old, young, beautiful, ugly. Get comfortable talking and it will come naturally after a few weeks. Like Deezbrah says, every set is practice.
 

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Not interested in feminine dances, never have and never will.

Women are more then capable leading themselves there, the only reasons males are there is either because they need his physical strength to do some maneuver or the man completes the overall picture, like an earring does to a woman's face.

If u r talking about masculine dance, that's a different game, it's not geared to bring out a man's inner "femininity", proper male dancing has survived to this day and if you need some examples, the haka dance would point you in the right direction.
Salsa, tango and ballroom dancing where the dude leads is not feminine nor easy.
 

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Salsa, tango and ballroom dancing where the dude leads is not feminine nor easy.
Never said is was easy but it is feminine centered.

To be great in those dances one has to be "in touch with inner femininity" - female natural state.

Again refer to the haka or even break dancing as comparison.

To be great in those dances one has to be athletic and aggressive - masculine natural state.
 

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+1

However i get what you did, old is not the best place to get quality.
This × infinity
Last week I had posted a thread about a date I had gone on with a girl I met off of tinder, the first time I had ever met someone from an OLD site or app. She was way heavier than what the photos suggested and even her face looked very different than what she had shown on there. She was also very annoying and just the whole date sucked.

Anyway, towards the latter part of last week and over the weekend I was chatting with a couple more of my matches on there, which also resulted in numbers. However, one of the issues, which was discussed on my last thread and with a friend I have out here, was the possibility of being "fatfished". Their profiles had pictures that were around chest height or higher, so there really wasn't anyway to see if they were fat or not. I was able to see their social media accounts and both of the women were way heavier than what their tinder profiles showed and they also looked very different as well, which didn't make any sense. I didn't say anything but just decided to not follow through with trying to meet up with them and I also decided to delete my tinder.

I really didn't want to continue with wasting my time like that so I felt it was for the better. Another issue was the fact that I was able to go through all of the profiles that were within my area in less than a week, and that was swiping right on about 50% of the profiles.....so to say the least there wasn't much on there out here. Right now I just feel like taking a break from this and just work/make money, workout, spend time with friends, play video games, read, watch movies, etc.
IMHO, not doing it right.

Continue but pivot more towards IRL approach, cold approaching, chsin gunning getting baeeeees, etc.

Real life > I'm not a 10 or Chad's but well above average. Not every girls type.

IRRELEVANT.

ITS ABOUT MY PREFERENCE. That being top form SMV 18-23, fit, thin, young, attractive, dtf, feminine, submissive and sandwich making skills.

Play the hand you are dealt. Check youtube.com Play With Fire. Gamers who focus online. A suggestion is to ask girl friends which pics. They love it and its benefits you. Also, get superb pics. Learn photoshop or pay a pro or college student.

There's a algorithm so, it rates up or down the profile. Even a paid edition will bump you up but it is code pendent on said ratings and algorithm. You can swipe but many don't have access to the profile.

Allocate more time to self development, money, business, edu, travel, etc. Live a great life. You can pull people out just based on the vibe. As you get better you see chicks doing the double take, Indicators of interest (IOIs), eye ****ing, etc. Stack. Get baaaaae. Notice body language. Note women hovering, suddenly in proximity, even dancing or bouncy in vicinity.

^^^^ its not a coincidence. Act accordingly. It doesn't guarantee success. Check Joe Navarro on body language. Its so money.

Step game up kuz by ascending mind, body, soul. You git this bro.

Lastly, CELEBRATE THE **** OUT OF EVERY SINGLE VICTORY NO MATTER HOW BIG OR SMALL.
 

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Lately I have been getting success at cardio kickboxing. I get to take my boxing/mma classes right after (which I highly recommend for physical confidence) but cardio kickboxing has a lot of attractive women.

And I don't subscribe to the notion that women just go to these places to do the activities and not try to flirt, so you should respect them and leave them alone. That's what they tell guys they don't want to fvck. And that's what non-fvckable guys rationalize to themselves. In my experience, women are ones doing the most flirting! What is this reality where women are asexual and do not respond to guys because their activities are so important? I've never seen such a reality. Almost all female activity is plausible deniability to show off their sex appeal or see what's out there on the market. Women aren't always looking, but are almost always open.
+1

Its a variant of mate guardian. Cucks and betas who cannot compete.
 

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The fastest way to improve yourself in the women department is to talk to every single woman you run into, old, young, beautiful, ugly. Get comfortable talking and it will come naturally after a few weeks. Like Deezbrah says, every set is practice.
Mazer mate, bang on.

Let's be cereal for a sec. We men either go out and smash or we smash ourselves on pornhub lulz.

In either event, smash lol

Its not about any one particular girl but, about the cultivation of Being as such. I am that guy in a society and culture that promote beta cuck provider.

As men, we have no choice but to go out on our ****ing shield or accept the status quo.

Life's too ****in boring not to try.
 

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Lately I have been getting success at cardio kickboxing. I get to take my boxing/mma classes right after (which I highly recommend for physical confidence) but cardio kickboxing has a lot of attractive women.

And I don't subscribe to the notion that women just go to these places to do the activities and not try to flirt, so you should respect them and leave them alone. That's what they tell guys they don't want to fvck. And that's what non-fvckable guys rationalize to themselves. In my experience, women are ones doing the most flirting! What is this reality where women are asexual and do not respond to guys because their activities are so important? I've never seen such a reality. Almost all female activity is plausible deniability to show off their sex appeal or see what's out there on the market. Women aren't always looking, but are almost always open.
I'm a regular gym goer and a lot of guys think that's the case with the women who go there but I'm sure as hell not convinced. If that wasn't the case then why do they show up in these tight little spandex yoga pants and little tops that reveal all if they are trying to avoid the advances of men lol.
 

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Last week I had posted a thread about a date I had gone on with a girl I met off of tinder, the first time I had ever met someone from an OLD site or app. She was way heavier than what the photos suggested and even her face looked very different than what she had shown on there. She was also very annoying and just the whole date sucked.

Anyway, towards the latter part of last week and over the weekend I was chatting with a couple more of my matches on there, which also resulted in numbers. However, one of the issues, which was discussed on my last thread and with a friend I have out here, was the possibility of being "fatfished". Their profiles had pictures that were around chest height or higher, so there really wasn't anyway to see if they were fat or not. I was able to see their social media accounts and both of the women were way heavier than what their tinder profiles showed and they also looked very different as well, which didn't make any sense. I didn't say anything but just decided to not follow through with trying to meet up with them and I also decided to delete my tinder.

I really didn't want to continue with wasting my time like that so I felt it was for the better. Another issue was the fact that I was able to go through all of the profiles that were within my area in less than a week, and that was swiping right on about 50% of the profiles.....so to say the least there wasn't much on there out here. Right now I just feel like taking a break from this and just work/make money, workout, spend time with friends, play video games, read, watch movies, etc.t
I wouldn't give up after one date. It's kind of like quitting baseball after a K in your first at bat.

Tinder isn't the best actual "dating" site if you want a higher-quality woman. I've had good luck with Hinge and Bumble, moderate results with Match and very poor with POF. Women get catfished too on OLD--a lot. I hear it all the time.

See things from the other side (know your "enemy" lol): Women also have a hard time meeting solid guys organically because 95% of the time women are not the aggressor in the interaction and need to be approached by the "quality" guy. These odds can be low even for a hot woman.

Dating in a social circle can be tricky too because they'll have to see the guy again when it goes south and they know dating at work is a REAL no-no these days. So, women can wait around and "hope" Prince Charming just happens to ride up and sweep her off her feet or she can take action and advertise she's single and looking via OLD. If she's even a HB5, she'll get lots of attention and messages so why shouldn't she set up a few OLD profiles? Women on OLD are NOT all low-quality. They are just looking for decent guys and have busy lives like you and me and want a way to meet people.

Try some other OLD sites and report back.

Good luck.

~Dash~
 

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The fastest way to improve yourself in the women department is to talk to every single woman you run into, old, young, beautiful, ugly. Get comfortable talking and it will come naturally after a few weeks. Like Deezbrah says, every set is practice.
I've noticed that when I do this, it's only the old & ugly that don't run away or otherwise not pay attention to me. :mad:
 

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why do they show up in these tight little spandex yoga pants and little tops that reveal all if they are trying to avoid the advances of men lol.
Attention is currency to women.

Men are retarded and clueless most times. They simp, beta provider, and are cucks most times. I blame low testosterone and single mother victimhood.

To answer your question, they want attention but, not your attention. They want doctors, lawyers, trust fund baby, and investment bankers. Its female hypergamy on steroids.

I have friends in the modeling industry. A playboy partied with drake. The women are attractive as ****kkk but, drake doesn't care because he is drake. My mate pulls models, pageant winners, small time actresses, etc. There's super model like Tyra Banks and others. Model is just paid for pics. Drake is mr international. Theirs levels in the game. When you see extremely beautiful women, 15/10, its a strange uncomfortable feeling especially as a young kid. What i saw was that, a lot of these women were ****ed and highly insecure. A lot of frugs, molly, cocaine, and cosmetic surgery. Its absurd given how hot they are but, valueless as a ferrari without a engine. I watched one of the hottest girls i ever met spend top form SMV chasing playboy and obliteration of her besr days into a fatty single mom. Its now victimhood and pity party.

The point being, the women are posturing and got their feathers out. Think MM PEACOCK THEORY. FEMALE EDITION. Stretchy pants, camel toe, sex appeal is pushed rather than anything else of actual substance. Its why Rollo says women make themselves out as a commodity. I have rich friends. Mansion parties. Here, you see stunners on the level of absurdity, 15/10s. There's no scaffolding. As in, its built up on a house of cards. In 99.9999% its the invasion of male resources. I have seen some alternative scenarios but, I am naturally skeptical in general just given female nature.

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Moving on, handle your biz. Focus on the areas you can. Disregard the rest. Get paper right. Seek self knowledge.

As for running game at the gym, nothing to do with form, technique or appearance.

Break rapport. Wuddup @ everyone guy or girl.

Dudes =friends, wings, gym partners

Chick = SNL, ons, fwb,

Repeat till infinity!

The trick is micro approach and re approach. Not during mid lunge or squat lol

At water fountain. In passing. It was rsd Alex/social who coined 4x approach re approach. Its money.

You don't want to be "that guy" in the gym. Leggings fettish guy or form guy.

Bait. Women who have high interest will give indicator of interest. They will be in proximity, they will approach, ask for help on a machine, etc. I have seen even girls dancing around me. Anything to be in sight.

There's a click on the gym. Be social but error on the side of caution. Purpose is to lift. Drop invites and stack. Less is more.
 
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