DEATH of the Friend zone

[PlayHer Man]

I propose starting a new movement to destroy what is known as "the friend zone".

The idea came to me today when I logged onto Facebook and saw a girl post how easy it is to emasculate a man simply by Friend zoning him. She boldly mocked a man's desperate need for sex and the power it gives women.

The Friend zone needs to DIE and the only way this can happen is for men to come together and kill it.

When you allow a woman to put you in the "friend zone" you are basically agreeing to give her a FREE relationship. She can call you any time and use you as her therapist, shopping buddy, whatever. She doesn't really have to do anything outside of continuing to acknowledge your existence :crackup: . That's it.. and she gets all the benefits of a "boyfriend" without any of the risks, work or sex. What moron would sign up for this? Sadly at least 80% of western men (maybe more).

The friend zone is the domain of fools and faggots. Men only go there because they are stupid enough to believe they can "ware her down" over time if they keep trying. Even in the RARE times when this works.. how can you still respect yourself as a man? You basically threw away your dignity to grovel at the feet of a woman. The weaker sex! What the f*ck is the matter with you?

Its time for corrections men. Its time for CHANGE. We need to start spreading the word that friendship with women you can't f*ck (but want to) is retarded. ALL men need to follow these rules:

1. Refuse to be friends with any woman who won't f*ck you.

2. Any woman who won't f*ck you within 2 weeks of dating should be dismissed.

3. Sex must be used as a "cover charge" for association with a man (if you are a woman). This means, all women who refuse sex lose all benefits of male association: protection, companionship, free sh!t, phone calls, texts, attention, "likes" on Facebook, etc.

If every man in the world refused to be "friends" with a woman without sex.. women would be FORCED to f*ck any man they want to have any type of relationship with. They would be forced to APPRECIATE commitment, love and marriage with men.

It starts with us. Take back the power men. It can be done if the majority of men swallow the RED pill.

Starting this process is simple. EDUCATION. All men need to learn the stupidity of the friend zone at a young age and avoid it.

 

[BeDJ]

As long as men are desperate for any form of intimacy, the Friend Zone will provide comfort.

 

[Burroughs]

study Patrice for much wisdom on this matter

don't let women steal your time

though most men are weak minded faggots who have neither the insight or inclination to be free of abusive cvntmeats.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9QOQNcpuiA

 

[Plutoman]

I don't always agree with you but I do agree with this. A platonic relationship with a girl is because I want a platonic relationship, because I am not interested in her but she's still cool enough for me to have a friendship with. Rare. Very rare. Not one girl at the moment, and only one since I left my classical beta roots, which promptly fell apart after I screwed someone she knew after going to a party with her. Think she was jealous..

My only note would be replace 'fvck' with 'physical intimacy'. I'm sure we could debate all of that all day long, and both of us have our opinions, so I'll just leave it at that.

 

[rhythmic]

Guys, the friend zone is necessary - just don't be in it. Leave that to lesser men.

These lesser men are actually doing the above-average, switched-on men a huge favour by providing polarity and a reference point for women on what they don't want.

I don't know about you, but I'm grateful to what you guys call AFCs for making me look even better.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Part of what Op suggests can be easily achieve through education of men about the real nature of the friendzone.

The friendzone is about many things but surely not friendship, when a guy gets friendzoned he is basically told that he is good to pay with his currency (attention,pumping her ego,emotional tampoon) while totally unworth of being paid back from her (sex, respect, validation).

Just make sure all guys know that a girl which friendzones them not only does that because she doesnt find them physically attractive enough but also she doesnt respect them enough to treat them with fairness.

When a girl frienzones you she is actually saying this:

"You're not hot enough for me, I dont acknowledge you as a man and I dont want anyone to believe that Im sexually associated with you".



Regarding the rest, well any guy with a decent level of self esteem and experience drop a girl who doesnt put out after a couple of weeks.

Anyway agree with the rest, women are not to be hated as many times happens in this forum but at the same time are entitled to sh1t, just like us they should be entitled only to what they worked for.

Me personally I had and I have platonic relations with girls which I wouldnt mind to bang but wouldnt work too much for it, mostly because they help me to keep my mental balance, they make great emotional tampoons as well anytime as a man you are in paranoid mode,feel hostility toward society or anger and need to vent with someone or simply have a walk.

 

[SamTheHobit]

Good post OP.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Part of what Op suggests can be easily achieve through education of men about the real nature of the friendzone.

The friendzone is about many things but surely not friendship, when a guy gets friendzoned he is basically told that he is good to pay with his currency (attention,pumping her ego,emotional tampoon) while totally unworth of being paid back from her (sex, respect, validation).

Just make sure all guys know that a girl which friendzones them not only does that because she doesnt find them physically attractive enough but also she doesnt respect them enough to treat them with fairness.

This is gold and EXACTLY what I'm driving at.

Men need to understand that THERE IS NO FRIENDSHIP BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN. A dog is a better friend to a man than a woman.

All relationships with humans are conditional and transactional. When you become legitimate "friends" with a woman without requiring sex.. you are lowering your male status to that of an appliance or a pawn. Even lower than a female friend, pet or child in her eyes. You are her dancing ape, therapist and personal assistant. Only GAY men can be true friends to women and seen as true friends by women.

In the case that you don't find her sexually attractive, yet you are friends with her because "she is so cool".. it is most likely that she finds YOU sexually attractive. This is the ONLY reason she'll offer up her affection and respect.

Women don't respect their male friends outside of the ones they want to f*ck. Why? Because women are always sexually attracted to men they RESPECT. For women.. respect and attraction go hand in hand. Lack of attraction means lack of respect. Women don't view men they don't find attractive as MEN. They view them as creeps and children. To women.. a MAN is always attractive and worthy of her respect. Don't confused respect out of fear (losing her job, losing access to resources, physical harm, etc.) with actual respect.

All men who get taken in divorces (like Tiger Woods, Paul McCartney, etc.) lost their woman's RESPECT.

Keep this in mind when you deal with women. To become a woman's "friend" is a form of submission of your male identity. You are "softening" yourself to get affection from a female. Women LOVE THIS, but they don't respect it. Just like men love sluts.. but don't respect them.

 

[lgbs2004]

This is gold and EXACTLY what I'm driving at.

Men need to understand that THERE IS NO FRIENDSHIP BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN. A dog is a better friend to a man than a woman.

All relationships with humans are conditional and transactional. When you become legitimate "friends" with a woman without requiring sex.. you are lowering your male status to that of an appliance or a pawn. Even lower than a female friend, pet or child in her eyes. You are her dancing ape, therapist and personal assistant. Only GAY men can be true friends to women and seen as true friends by women.

In the case that you don't find her sexually attractive, yet you are friends with her because "she is so cool".. it is most likely that she finds YOU sexually attractive. This is the ONLY reason she'll offer up her affection and respect.

Women don't respect their male friends outside of the ones they want to f*ck. Why? Because women are always sexually attracted to men they RESPECT. For women.. respect and attraction go hand in hand. Lack of attraction means lack of respect. Women don't view men they don't find attractive as MEN. They view them as creeps and children. To women.. a MAN is always attractive and worthy of her respect. Don't confused respect out of fear (losing her job, losing access to resources, physical harm, etc.) with actual respect.

All men who get taken in divorces (like Tiger Woods, Paul McCartney, etc.) lost their woman's RESPECT.

Keep this in mind when you deal with women. To become a woman's "friend" is a form of submission of your male identity. You are "softening" yourself to get affection from a female. Women LOVE THIS, but they don't respect it. Just like men love sluts.. but don't respect them.

 

[Megaman XIV]

I propose starting a new movement to destroy what is known as "the friend zone".

The idea came to me today when I logged onto Facebook and saw a girl post how easy it is to emasculate a man simply by Friend zoning him. She boldly mocked a man's desperate need for sex and the power it gives women.

The Friend zone needs to DIE and the only way this can happen is for men to come together and kill it.

When you allow a woman to put you in the "friend zone" you are basically agreeing to give her a FREE relationship. She can call you any time and use you as her therapist, shopping buddy, whatever. She doesn't really have to do anything outside of continuing to acknowledge your existence :crackup: . That's it.. and she gets all the benefits of a "boyfriend" without any of the risks, work or sex. What moron would sign up for this? Sadly at least 80% of western men (maybe more).

The friend zone is the domain of fools and faggots. Men only go there because they are stupid enough to believe they can "ware her down" over time if they keep trying. Even in the RARE times when this works.. how can you still respect yourself as a man? You basically threw away your dignity to grovel at the feet of a woman. The weaker sex! What the f*ck is the matter with you?

Its time for corrections men. Its time for CHANGE. We need to start spreading the word that friendship with women you can't f*ck (but want to) is retarded. ALL men need to follow these rules:

1. Refuse to be friends with any woman who won't f*ck you.

2. Any woman who won't f*ck you within 2 weeks of dating should be dismissed.

3. Sex must be used as a "cover charge" for association with a man (if you are a woman). This means, all women who refuse sex lose all benefits of male association: protection, companionship, free sh!t, phone calls, texts, attention, "likes" on Facebook, etc.

If every man in the world refused to be "friends" with a woman without sex.. women would be FORCED to f*ck any man they want to have any type of relationship with. They would be forced to APPRECIATE commitment, love and marriage with men.

It starts with us. Take back the power men. It can be done if the majority of men swallow the RED pill.

Starting this process is simple. EDUCATION. All men need to learn the stupidity of the friend zone at a young age and avoid it.

The friendzone is all fun and games for the woman until it's time for sex.

If only all men know the reality of the friendzone and Briffault's Law...Damn, take that red pill and wake the f**k up! This would help drive down the price of love and sex!

Now if only we could get chumps to stop believing in the friendzone. (You're not sexually attractive enough for me. We won't f**k, but you can buy me things and I'll even spend more time with you if my alphas flake. But even then, I'll just string you along.)

 

[Sandow]

Don't forget you can also turn the tables and friendzone certain girls. Use em, have em do sh1t for you, use them for their hot friends. This is probably more advanced, but I've been doing this for some time now. So for example, if it's some fatty you're not interested in, don't just kick em to the curb. Use em. Get the most out of em. Bait them in. They'll always end up crying at the end, but hey, what goes around comes around.

 

[expos]

While I agree with what the OP is saying...I've been using women who are my friends that I'm not all that attracted to, to up my value and make potential hookups jealous and fight for me even more.

Trust me....it works. When some girl is blowing up your facebook wall or tagging you in locations with them, you better believe that your truly interested chicks will start scrambling, getting jealous, and acting crazy to get your attention.

That said, I've never gotten friendzoned in my entire life. I have a pretty good sense when a girl is not into me and I bail to avoid anything embarrassing.

 

[PlayHer Man]

study Patrice for much wisdom on this matter

don't let women steal your time

though most men are weak minded faggots who have neither the insight or inclination to be free of abusive cvntmeats.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9QOQNcpuiA

Great video Burroughs. This is what I'm talking about.

Every man needs to take this medicine--> If you're "friends" with a woman you can't f*ck.. you're a weak faggot.

THERE IS NO FRIENDSHIP BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN.

 

[Mike32ct]

I agree completely. PlayHer Man, rhythmic, and WhoDaresWin nailed it.

I have a question, though. How should I act around women in my social circle that I KNOW (through experience) aren't attracted to me?

1. Be polite to everyone, but MINIMIZE my conversations with these women. (This is what I currently do.)

Or

2. Avoid these women like the plague, even at the risk of being perceived as an unfriendly prick. (Sometimes I do this lol.)

I'm guessing it's #1 because professional courtesy is not the same thing as being her emotional tampon, but I'm open to any thoughts.

I agree with the OP completely, but as a practical matter, you probably will have to deal with SOME uninterested women in your social circle. You can't just tell them to F off, even though you might want to because you know she doesn't respect you lol.

 

[LongLostFriend]

I agree completely. PlayHer Man, rhythmic, and WhoDaresWin nailed it.

I have a question, though. How should I act around women in my social circle that I KNOW (through experience) aren't attracted to me?

1. Be polite to everyone, but MINIMIZE my conversations with these women. (This is what I currently do.)

Or

2. Avoid these women like the plague, even at the risk of being perceived as an unfriendly prick. (Sometimes I do this lol.)

I'm guessing it's #1 because professional courtesy is not the same thing as being her emotional tampon, but I'm open to any thoughts.

I agree with the OP completely, but as a practical matter, you probably will have to deal with SOME uninterested women in your social circle. You can't just tell them to F off, even though you might want to because you know she doesn't respect you lol.

Why would you tell a woman to F off just because she was not interested in you? That is about as DLV as orbiting her.

If we are talking about in a workplace environment or in a social circle, I find that exuding a general, omnidirectional charm is often the way to go. Even if you are not interested in a woman (or if she is not interested in you), other candidates for your loving may be observing the behavior and find it attractive. Unwarranted prickishness, on the other hand, will be a turn-off to all who see it.

Still, make it a policy never to do anything for an uninvested, uninterested woman that you would not do for a male acquaintance.

 

[Mike32ct]

Why would you tell a woman to F off just because she was not interested in you? That is about as DLV as orbiting her.

I wouldn't. Just joking lol.

If we are talking about in a workplace environment or in a social circle, I find that exuding a general, omnidirectional charm is often the way to go. Even if you are not interested in a woman (or if she is not interested in you), other candidates for your loving may be observing the behavior and find it attractive. Unwarranted prickishness, on the other hand, will be a turn-off to all who see it.

Yeah makes sense.

Still, make it a policy never to do anything for an uninvested, uninterested woman that you would not do for a male acquaintance.

Thanks.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Why would you tell a woman to F off just because she was not interested in you? That is about as DLV as orbiting her.

If we are talking about in a workplace environment or in a social circle, I find that exuding a general, omnidirectional charm is often the way to go. Even if you are not interested in a woman (or if she is not interested in you), other candidates for your loving may be observing the behavior and find it attractive. Unwarranted prickishness, on the other hand, will be a turn-off to all who see it.

Still, make it a policy never to do anything for an uninvested, uninterested woman that you would not do for a male acquaintance.

I agree.

A good rule is to simply treat all women you can't f*ck like pawns. Don't give a woman special treatment for being a woman unless you're pounding her. Why? Because if a woman is refusing to f*ck you.. then she is basically saying you are NOT a man in her eyes.

Once its clear she is unwilling to f*ck you (As a true DJ this should be easy to figure out) there is no longer any reason to give any special treatment, privileges, attention, etc. for being female. She loses her "woman" status and becomes fair game for whatever selfish needs you can use her for. :yes:

 

[Bokanovsky]

I agree completely. PlayHer Man, rhythmic, and WhoDaresWin nailed it.

I have a question, though. How should I act around women in my social circle that I KNOW (through experience) aren't attracted to me?

1. Be polite to everyone, but MINIMIZE my conversations with these women. (This is what I currently do.)

Or

2. Avoid these women like the plague, even at the risk of being perceived as an unfriendly prick. (Sometimes I do this lol.)

Neither. These women should be irrelevant to you. Socialize with them normally in the group setting but do not compliment them, try to get their attention, do sh*t for them or hang out with them one on one. There is nothing wrong with being civil and friendly with women you are not banging. It has nothing to do with being in the friendzone.