"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Dealing with very successful friends and parties...

Babnik

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I try to hang around people who I look up to in many ways. I want to learn from them and try be like them (in some ways where I feel some lacking).

I go out with them to parties to have fun.

Now, being rejected doesn't mean anything to me personally, but when you are at a party with like 100 people and you see many guys making out with girls and when YOU go for it and get rejected - it feels so damn awkward.

So, its a fear of not living up to your friend's expectations. EVEN THOUGH they would never make fun of me or care much. But when you see them get girls and YOU fail then you just think "I am not as good as they are" and it feels bad.

How do you deal with that? Its like...10 guys, 10 girls, 9 pairs kissing and YOU are the only one who went for it and she rejected you...

I feel like ABSOLUTE loser at that point. Even though nobody cares...
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Well. Here's a few possibilities.

1) Maybe some of those girls were sluts and you just didn't get to the right one.

2) Maybe the girl you approached didn't want to feel like a slut, and she rejected you BECAUSE all those ppl were making out...and she knew what was on your mind.

3) Maybe some of those guys/girls we already together before the party (ie. bf/gf)

4) Maybe your game needs work.
 

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become sucessful.

workout!

Don't make a big deal outta it. Everytime you get rejected, just laugh it off, be like 'dam, my game needs some tunning up'. Your friends don't like you for your ability to get girls. However, don't let them feel sorry for you.

If they're making out, don't make em feel sorry that you're by yourself. Keep trying to talk to new people, even guys, enjoy yourself, have a blast. Make it seem that you have an awesome time when you go out with your friends, if you get girls or not.
 

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spesmilitis said:
become sucessful.

workout!

Don't make a big deal outta it. Everytime you get rejected, just laugh it off, be like 'dam, my game needs some tunning up'. Your friends don't like you for your ability to get girls. However, don't let them feel sorry for you.

If they're making out, don't make em feel sorry that you're by yourself. Keep trying to talk to new people, even guys, enjoy yourself, have a blast. Make it seem that you have an awesome time when you go out with your friends, if you get girls or not.

weight lifting Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday 90 minutes, soccer 3 hours Wednesday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

Enough workout...

I AM successful.

They do not feel sorry. In fact, they push me to do better.

Still, it feels CRAPPY to screw up in front of them.

See, I NEVER see them screw up!
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Yeah, I´ve been through that too.
 

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see, babnik...if your parents hadn't emmigrated out of ukraine you could be sucking down some cheap vodka and not worrying about such drama. i feel for ya. kinda like we are brothers in a strange way. you have found a life in my former world and i have found a life in your former world. at least you get invited to parties in my former world. i never did get invited to many. so you are one up on me there.

my advice...quit hanging around dudes that you admire. hang with the losers. people that you dominate. that way you will be tops.

personally i admire just about zero people on this planet. i have come to the conclusion that everyone is a totall f***up. that includes myself and everyone i have ever dealt with. doesn't matter how wealthy or famous they are.
 

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sparky0000 said:
see, babnik...if your parents hadn't emmigrated out of ukraine you could be sucking down some cheap vodka and not worrying about such drama. i feel for ya. kinda like we are brothers in a strange way. you have found a life in my former world and i have found a life in your former world. at least you get invited to parties in my former world. i never did get invited to many. so you are one up on me there.

my advice...quit hanging around dudes that you admire. hang with the losers. people that you dominate. that way you will be tops.

personally i admire just about zero people on this planet. i have come to the conclusion that everyone is a totall f***up. that includes myself and everyone i have ever dealt with. doesn't matter how wealthy or famous they are.
You are an American who moved to the Ukraine? I mean I get invited to like 2 parties a week, nothing special here. I prefer clubs anyway.

When I hang out with loses - I am not learning all that much and I am not improving myself. This is in regard to LIFE, not just women.
 

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my advice...quit hanging around dudes that you admire. hang with the losers. people that you dominate. that way you will be tops.
Whatever you do, don't do this.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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You should just concentrate on having a good time when you are with your friends. You should go out alone when you are looking for girls. Going alone takes the pressure off of trying to be successful in front of your boys and it makes better use of your time to practice your skills.
 

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Juan_Man said:
You should just concentrate on having a good time when you are with your friends. You should go out alone when you are looking for girls. Going alone takes the pressure off of trying to be successful in front of your boys and it makes better use of your time to practice your skills.
Mm... thats not how it works for most people. I never really went out ALONE...
 

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Well, I just had to get over it. More often these guys have already programmed something with the girls.

Sometimes succeed, sometimes you don´t.
 
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