Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Dealing with internet blow-offs

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So I have been trying my hand at meeting women on-line. While I have met some success, the problem I have had is the incredibly high number of women who suggest meeting up, get all enthusiastic about it ... and then cancel between 0-30 minutes before the date, and then disappear forever.

I have tried being understanding, and suggesting that they contact me when they are ready, and that just means they never get back to me. I have tried telling them off, and they then suggest an alternative date. Of course, when I agree, they then disappear forever.

So I am trying a new approach, as set out below:

Here is the latest blow-off e-mail I got from a girl I was writing to:

Pllllleeease don't think that I'm running away, but I've had this cold thing and I've started running a fever with it. If you still want to go I'll go, but I would feel horrible if I got you sick and if you wanted to take a raincheck I'd completely understand. If we do go, I'm sure you'd understand that I shouldn't stay out very long...I'm so sorry, I really didn't think this would be a problem but I thought it only fair to warn you.

This is one of the weak-kneed blow-offs where the girl is obviously hoping I would cancel.

and here is my AFC response:

I am still happy to meet up. Something has come up though, so I can only meet after 9:30 instead of 8:45.

Given that you may not be feeling the best, and that you may have to leave early, shall we meet at the Starbucks? That way you can get home quickly if you start feeling unwell.

Hope you are feeling better, and I will hopefully see you tonight at 9:30.


Obviously the AFC response gave this girl the courage to be a little more blunt:

hey,
I'm afraid I can't at 9:30...but perhaps we can another time. I'll look forward to hearing from you soon
Heather


I then continued being an AFC by sending a message saying we could meet at 8:45 after all, which she promptly ignored.

And here is me trying something new - Calling on her crap, and introducing competition at the same time:

Please ignore the last message. One of the girls in the research group I was working with tonight explained to me that in the United States, when a girl doesn't want to give her phone number, cancels at the last minute and does not suggest a definite date to meet up, it means she really had no interest in meeting up at all. I guess even though I have been here awhile, I am still new to this country in some ways, and am stll not good at spotting these things.

This got a reponse within minutes - Pretty good for a girl who is too sick to go out!

As nicely as I can say this,
I believe it's not very nice in any country to make assumptions without consulting the other person. I just recieved your e-mail about being able to meet at 8:15 and would have done so had I checked sooner. As for the girl, please inform her that some girls aren't like that...I am genuinely sick, really couldn't make it at 9:30 (I have an early day and I don't feel well), and would truly like another opportunity to meet if you feel so inclined to offer one. One of the traits I pride myself on is honesty, and I'm a brave enough girl to tell you that I don't want to go with you if I really don't.
Heather


And this is me continuing the same reponse:

Nah, it's cool. The girl from my research group also predicted that you would send an e-mail much like the one you just sent me, which kind of confirms what she said about you, and she has been putting a lot of effort into being a good friend to me here in the US, so I have no reason to doubt her.

No hard feelings though - I know it can be scary meeting someone for the first time, especially when you are a bit younger. I guess I was so impressed with how articulate and well-written your post on CL was that I forgot how old you really were. Best of luck with everything - I am sure someone as intelligent and well-spoken as yourself should have no problems finding a decent


which got another quick response:

The irony is that as confident as you are, you actually couldn't be more wrong about me...but at least now I know that about you.

So any suggestions or comments?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Pappadapolis

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The thing about chicks on Internet dating sites is that a lot of them are attention wh0res. They use those sites because tons of men will email them, making them feel desirable. Same with Myspace. Most of those chicks aren't even hot, take a look at yahoo pers0nals in your area. The vast majority are 0's to 6's. Guys don't approach them in real life so they look online. If she cancels, ignore her emails. Flaky chicks stay flaky. They won't change.
 

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:crackup:
And on these dating sites (numerous they are..), there is lots of girls out there. Not only that, but if you revert back to uh..I don't know, THE REAL WORLD, there is umm..'population / 10' for girls within your age group.

So an online chick flakes on you, whoppie flipping do. Instead of wasting your time replying back to her, you should of taken the hint and either;
a) Messaged another viable flaker on the site to meet up (ie: Double/Triple.. booking yourself for backups)
or,
b) Gotten into that REAL WORLD that I was talking about, where in a 100,000 person city, 10000 girls lie waiting for you to sarge.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Focus on upping your qualifying skills and you'll sidestep most of the flaky women online.
 
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