"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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dealing with female dj.

garruk

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ive run into the female counterpart of a DJ.


an attractive girl with big career plans, and spinning a bunch of plates.


how would you deal with this?

im probably the one shes most ineterested in, but i feel as though as long im spinning plates, shes doing the same. i have otehr hobbies im interested in...so does she. its almost like we're running concurrently.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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That sounds like the majority of girls?
 

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Yes it's called a Female Player. There are many of them and IMO they suck because they sleep around and never have feelings for anyone they sleep with, the way a normal woman would.
 

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It sounds like she is enjoying her plate spinning. She could ask you for exclusivity, but don't expect it or count on it.

Just give it to her good, better than all her other plates.

On the other hand, if you are getting attached to her, then maybe it's time to walk away and find someone more available for a relationship.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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yeah, that one of those rare women that thinks like a dude. Nothing you can do about it. She's going to do what she wants and you trying to change that will only push her away. Just be cool with it.

I personally avoid women like that, but I like girly girls.
 

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Mantis Toboggan said:
Only to a heartbroken AFC like you
Insulting me will not earn you more green dots.
 

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i wouldnt say im attached and im not looking to get into a relationship with her. but its fun to hang with her.

i'm just prideful and i hate the idea of getting played. thats my job!
haha, im sure you guys know what im talkingabout. you never want to lose a girl to another guy... just makes you feel beta.
 

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an attractive girl with big career plans, and spinning a bunch of plates.

how would you deal with this?
Run in the opposite direction as fast as you can?
 

garruk

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zekko said:
Run in the opposite direction as fast as you can?
really? thats like admitting defeat.

no girl should be out of your reach. but maybe thats the kind of thinking that gets you into trouble lol.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I deal with girls like this all the time, you have to play there own game against them. Be the center of attention, be funny and top of it all, be confident in everything you do. I usually them alot, "there not much I cant handle" with full seriousness. After a while it gets in there subconscious and there all over me because I combine all those aspects. Top it all of with making her jump through YOUR hoops, never hers.
 

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If it were me I would keep it easy and breezy and fun. Also tear it up in the bedroom. Don't drop hints about other women, but don't hide or deny them, she's still a woman and she will still get jealous even if she doesn't react. Of course you know showing any AFC will get you ate up, and small dose of azzhole game can't hurt.
 

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girls that have lots going on, esp career or outside interests - are INTERESTING! this is a good thing
 

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There is no such thing as a female DJ. what you are dealing with is a freak.

Sure, a woman can have a nice job, nice goals and everything else. But she is not a Dj just because she has a few guys she's dating....


Being a DJ or a player implies that game is being thrown out to maintain a team or one woman. Players and dj's spit game. Women fall in love mostly with their ears so a guys with good game will be good with women

a woman does not "game" a man. If that were the case then you'd see fat ass chicks pulling guys all the time. Not just pullin simps, but pimps as well. Men mostly fall for a chick cuz of the pvssy. That's her main bargaining chip in the game. pvssy and looks. So tell me how is that being a dj? She might be a boss b1tch, yes. But she is not a dj. Lets call a spade a spade guys

that being said. Deal with her like you would any other chick
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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For girls like these, I think you should keep your time with her to a minimum. But when you do interact with her make it the time of her life! And don't forget to fvk her ASAP! :)
 

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Sounds like a low quality woman. She spining a lot of plates because she has a self esteem issue. And likes attention from guys.

She won't put too much stock in one guy. Which is the problem. Also she gets what she wants from the guys. Money...cars..mr. fix it...lover...emotinoal tampon. So if you don't cater to her she would stop giving you attention and direct it elswhere with you left thinking "what happened". Its really a no-win situation.

Hit it and leave. They aren't long term relationship material. Flawed woman.
 

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She's spinning lots of plates = she's fking a lot of guys!

Wouldn't go there...
 

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Social_Leper said:
Seriously?? What is with all the hate in this thread.You're one of the more intelligent, experienced members on this forum and all your posts I've seen thus far have been flawless but I really don't agree with this. I'd be happy to hear why you'd give this advice.

This is what you'd call a high quality women with ambitions who knows what she wants out of life and isn't afraid to express her sexuality by spinning plates. Thats interesting and certainly beats the 99% of the girls you see around.

How many high quality women do you think are really going to drop all their options just because they've met you. It'll come with time if you're good enough and similarly she shouldn't expect you to drop all your options until (and thats even if) she earns your exclusivity.

We talk about how your tastes or your 'ideal women' can never be confirmed until you've been with a variety of women. Naturally she's just doing the same.
Actually I agree with him, do you want to become one of her plates knowingly? It's ok if you don't know about it but shiet man I wouldn't knowingly want to be one of her options.
 

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Social_Leper said:
How did you end up with such a high rep giving silly unnecessary responses like this?
Just read the previous posts and you'll see:


SamTheHobit said:
Insulting me will not earn you more green dots.
Gray The Prince said:
He earns green dots from me!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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