"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Dealing With Dimes

Jakeg123

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Hey Guys,

Things have been great and I've had close to zero complaints/cares in the world. Recently laid a solid 10, she's actually on a poster all over campus (It was like being with a celebrity :cheer: ). I had known her for a few months prior, noticed that she thought she could get away with things and immediately started work on negs, a ton of sexuality and started talking. Long story short, she jumped on me in the car and it worked well; she told me she had wanted to do that since she met me, blah blah. We had been talking quite a bit over winter break when she was back home in cali and she is all sorts of caught up on an ex. I'm not trying to date her but definitely want to keep hooking up. We get back to school, and all of the sudden she is acting different. I'll see her at her sorority house and she will barely talk to me, yet at night she will call me to see if I'm going out, act excited to see me then when I finally show up will once again act weird and distant. Texts will be read and responded to way later if at all and the dynamic is just rapidly different for no reason. Trying my best not to care if it's a **** test. I was with 2 girls last night which was nice, so it isn't limiting me.

What are your thoughts?

Is it a **** test? She is finally playing hard to get? Hell if I know.

Jake
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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alpha_ash

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Let it play out. Don't take her seriously! Looks like she doesn't want to be with you in front of her friends. If she asks or texts again tell her to come over or go out with her so you two are alone. Plus if sex is all that matters to you, then there's no reason to risk it by hanging with her in front of other people. Game on!
 

Victory Unlimited

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You're her "standby guy" or her spare "dikk in a glass case".

If she's as hot as you say she is, she was probably into you at the very beginning because YOU represented a challenge to HER. She probably only used to this scenario playing out the other way around. Understand?

So...when she finally got what SHE wanted----you dropped on her priority list. Not to mention that now that she's back at school she's also back living her normal life:

Being a campus celebrity and getting ALL the attention she can handle.

whenever you're dealing with a woman that treats you as a standby, you must immediately treat her the SAME WAY-----times two. Otherwise, she'll just start thinking of you as just another fan that she "allowed" to get with her once----like a celebrity holding a one-time charity event.

Continue to be a MAN and not a fan. Treat HER like she's your fan instead. You'll find that attention-addicted women simply CANNOT handle NOT being the subject of someone's attention that they USED to have at their beck and call.


V.U.
 

Jakeg123

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That 100% makes sense in my brain right now...so continue **** as normal? I must have gone soft somewhere to where I'm no longer a challenge recently. Should I pull a no contact or simple carry on how I was?

Jake
 

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If I were in your situation, I'd continue to act normal-----but also taper off any contact I had with her----until we reached the NO CONTACT point.

Then, if SHE initiated contact, I wouldn't waste much time chit-chatting with her, I'd immediately suggest getting together with her to do something or another----just to see if she'd do it. Then, if she stuttered, stalled, or declined to hook up------I'd still have a light and funny attitude, but I'd immediately "get distracted" and end the conversation.

If you do this enough times, she'll get a clue:

Either come to me correct or keep stepping off from me in the other direction.

You're a young guy, but STILL-----believe me when I tell you that life is too short to waste time on flaky women. So while you're tapering off on talking to this chick, put in some real effort to REPLACE her. Don't forget: You already know she's hung up on some other guy, so you can't really count on her being consistent in her behavior towards you.

Keep doing RECON on your campus. You'll be surprised at how many gorgeous chicks that are probably walking around there who are a LOT more COOPERATIVE than this one is.


RESPECT.



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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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floydb25

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I wouldn't fret over "high class" women, or hot girls. It sounds like she showed interest until she got what she wanted (sex) - then returned to her normal, "not giving a ****" self. These girls are very spoiled and entitled, and expect to get everything they want - with no regard for others. Her ex probably doesn't give her what she wants, which is why she's focused on him so much. Make no mistake that its all about her, and her needs. ****, she just used you for sex, because its what she "wanted". They go in, get what they want - usually with incredible zeal - then back off, or leave altogether.

Their standards are typically too high, and most people are typically used for whatever they can provide, and are categorized accordingly. But more than anything, they simply dont give a **** about anyone - because they don't have to. They're used to getting everything they want, and having things their way.

Thats why they are typically used for sex (once) and discarded - because its all they're good for, interested in, and view and treat people as (objects). Nothing lasts very long with these fly-by *****es.

Dealt with these types a lot in the past, and the story was always the same. There's NOTHING in what you wrote that makes her sound any different.

Their attention spans are also typically very low, and they lose interest in people quickly - without enough regard or respect to tell them that. They just stop giving a ****, treat them as unimportant, stop responding or going up to them... A lot of them become huge stuck up *****es - because its what they always were.

None of this matters how "hot" or awesome you are, either. It's just the way they are, and how they view and treat people. Nobody is special, or as important as them.
 

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This is going to sound trite, but ideally you should deal with 10s by the exact same standards you treat other girls. In practice, that means you have to put them in their place a lot more often, because their hotness often comes at the price of a shallow, b!tchy, and annoying personality IMO.
 

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Darth said:
This is going to sound trite, but ideally you should deal with 10s by the exact same standards you treat other girls. In practice, that means you have to put them in their place a lot more often, because their hotness often comes at the price of a shallow, b!tchy, and annoying personality IMO.
This. They have it imbedded in them that they're special and superior, and it shows in everything they say and do. Even in how they strut around, storm away, and ****. There's always this aura of superiority and entitlement surrounding them. Their treatment towards others is typically very poor, because they don't value anybody. And their personalities suck.

But putting them in their place still doesn't stop them from acting like spoiled ****s - because its what they are. Thats why, if you get the unfortunate chance of getting to know them well, all they do is complain and nag about every little thing that affects them in any way. And its usually regarding something painfully shallow, stupid, and inconsequential - like themselves. Heaven FORBID anything goes wrong for the holy princess. :box:

I'm just glad to not be chasing these types anymore. Don't have to hear "I want" all the time - in that annoying, screeching tone. Not giving them what they "want" just results in endless whining and complaining. Until they get what they "want" - then you're disregarded and no longer a priority. This includes sex, your interest, attention, or anything else that's shallow in nature.

There's a lot of take, and very little give.

Garbage. :nono:
 
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