"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Dealing with 2 girls at once

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Hey, first want to say this site and the people on it are awesome, my life has changed so much.

But im having a few problems. I had a great house party today, no boring atmosphere of dominos pizza and doing nothing that happens at a lot of house parties ive been to. I got a load of girls around so it ended up being more girls than guys. So im chilled out, sit down opposite a girl im trying to start with, and conversation goes good. But I felt at times it was me trying to start it up too much but at times she would get into it, asking quite a few questions..she was shy though.

1) I've read over conversations here on how to work a good convers...but it still felt like it was all uphill. Suggestions?

Okay so it was going good but then one of the girls i had success with sat on the arm of my chair leaning into me. Girl opposite me got the message and closed herself, when she did leave - so did the girl who was on the arm of my chair.

2) Any suggestions on how to get the girl who was trying to move in on me, to be put on hold without turning her off...

Party ends and it feels great, got a lot of #s. Only thing I need next time are games/things to do. TV+Xbox and Guitar are awesome for the guys but for the girls and guys togethor...?

3) Whats a good way to keep guys+girls occupied at a party...i was thinking on the level of games..pool...etc So far I found HB9s dont like watching guys play Halo 2 :p

Things have gone great since I pulled my head of of my ass and saw how to do things right. Thanks for the great help and adivce!
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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5 words: lots of alcohol, loud music


problem will be solved
 
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Originally posted by English_Bloke

Okay so it was going good but then one of the girls i had success with sat on the arm of my chair leaning into me. Girl opposite me got the message and closed herself, when she did leave - so did the girl who was on the arm of my chair.

2) Any suggestions on how to get the girl who was trying to move in on me, to be put on hold without turning her off...
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please elaborate, if she just sat on side of ur chair without talking, then you could have kept up convo with other chick and done kino with this one,
plz explain more i dont understand how u lost BOTH of them.
 
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@Bluefox - the girl leaning on me was really trying hard to seduce me. Shes been doing it a few times before, but I never let her quite get what she wants - making her feel not entirely rejected but that she needs to try harder. So she got fairly intamite and stradled me, unbutoned my shirt at once point..you get the idea. So it was pretty hard to try and talk across her to the other girl while this was going on, let alone do kino that I would have liked to have built up.

What I should have said is that the girl who was playing around with me did leave to get like a drink/toilet or something, but came back and we countinued. So i got 1 out of the 2.

Ive had the same thing happen before and I have pulled it off with me working on 4 girls at once at school, but not to the extent of having intamate contact...so i was caught off-guard on what to do and let one slip.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Originally posted by English_Bloke
@Bluefox - the girl leaning on me was really trying hard to seduce me. Shes been doing it a few times before, but I never let her quite get what she wants - making her feel not entirely rejected but that she needs to try harder. So she got fairly intamite and stradled me, unbutoned my shirt at once point..you get the idea. So it was pretty hard to try and talk across her to the other girl while this was going on, let alone do kino that I would have liked to have built up.

What I should have said is that the girl who was playing around with me did leave to get like a drink/toilet or something, but came back and we countinued. So i got 1 out of the 2.

Ive had the same thing happen before and I have pulled it off with me working on 4 girls at once at school, but not to the extent of having intamate contact...so i was caught off-guard on what to do and let one slip.
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i say if she left because of this girl geting with u, then she wasnt worth it cause she wuda turn out to be INSECURE and a psycho, just a feeling.
good u got the kino there, did u bang that yet?
 
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