"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Deadly seductive.... I feel sick

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After having my heart broken twice (in a row), I stripped what happened down and worked out the formula to love....

I thought screw it, I started hanging with one of the biggest womanisers ever, (at very least the biggest I've ever met). So I read, read, study, study, nearly wrecking my education in the process (luckily from my manipulative skillz I managed to master interviews too).

So I hang with some friends, one happens to be a girl. HA I don't care about her. I play perfect game on her for weeks, she falls in love HARD. (as I write this she is in a pool of tears).

She confesses that she feels more for me than she did with this guy (who some would say is better looking than me) Scott who she was extremely in love with and they were together for years. The kinda couple everyone thought would last forever, joint at the hip. She even turned down his request to be with her (along with alot of other guys). I told her I will never lead her on again (which explains the tears). If i kept on shed probs kill herself.

I am starting to feel evil and detatched, I'm practically shaking right now.

Lesson: Never Game a girl whos friendship is important unless you are really into her.

Dark lesson: If you can make a grl feel amazing about herself and then take it all away, make her think shes lost it, then give it back to her and repeat over and over, each time she will fall harder.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Think role reversal.

Most AWs would do what you did, and not feel guilty about it at all.

Consider that.

I don't think that you were that evil to be honest. I posted a similar thread a few weeks ago saying similarish things, and saying that the time I felt a little guilty. You shouldn't. You can't help being an attractive guy, can you*?

I suppose we can conclude that you are a deeper person than most AWs.

* - Well, I suppose you can. But don't think about it that way!
 

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Originally posted by aftershock
Think role reversal.

Most AWs would do what you did, and not feel guilty about it at all.

You're correct. This happens due to a deficiency in empathy. The main problem is not running her game on someone she likes, but to run them on every man under her "radar" just for the sake of feeling powerful (aka ego boost). Some people call Aws snakes or sirens.
 

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yeah i have these unnecessary moral problems too =[

think of it like that

you got heartbroken multiple times....you feel terrible.....so you never want it to happen to you again.....you upgrade yourself........then finally you are successful and this time you are the one with the better game.......but again you feel terrible......something is wrong here because what ever you do YOU feel terrible....how ****ed up is this?

i mean what shall you do....go back into AFC mode??

imo todays world is ****ed up, when women do the same thing it is OKAY.....but when a man does it he is the biggest *******. this **** is so ****ed up i sometimes wish i would be back in stoneage or something back then **** was cruel but fair.

i have major problems getting over the programming that females are superior to males and that they are nicer etc and should be pleased ://

but nice seeing an interesting thread here
 

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This week I'm going to walk through the city and try and get as many sales pple approach me as possible to help get that edge from them.

Sometimes it was easier when there were no girls around. Nowdays I'm doing something like anti dump. I try to keep 2 girls on the go so it is easy to walk away from either PLUS I'm out sarging, slowly developing a solid approach/routine. I don't think this is wrong because as soon as 1 shines through the jar of rusted pennies I will make her mine.

It was mad the stuff she was saying to me. She said your not like any other guy i I've met. i cant figure you out and i can figure any guy out, she said I'll die alone, I have no emotions, i'm a boffin cause I dont watch tv, i just plot on opening my own business and becoming a millionaire.

Anyways fvck her, if it was the other way around i would jus have guys calling me pathetic behind my back.

Welcome me to the dark side guys, I am going to be the best around my area!
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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lol dieing alone...you can have ****loadz of people if you disregard quality.......
 

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Theres always another woman! Heck if I do manage to go through every hb in a 30 mile radius, by the time i get to the end there wll be more new1s just turned leagal. Perhaps there isnt many hbs in my area but I'm planning on moving so GAME ON!
 

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I hear ya mate! I've been feeling like a complete bastard the last few months. I decided to open my options, lead a few women on, let them get infatuated and then had to reject some of them. My conscience felt so heavy afterwards and I hated myself for it.

In fact, I spent Friday night lying in bed awake wondering how I was going to reject my Saturday date without hurting her (I was so tired I fell asleep in the cinema). Anyway, she beat me to it and LJBF'd me before I did her. She said exactly what I'd been thinking too, but damn it stung! However, it made me feel a bit foolish for worrying about her feelings so much.

People are going to get hurt and that's the nature of the game, but as others have said, women will do the same in your shoes.
 

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Originally posted by Jariel
I hear ya mate! I've been feeling like a complete bastard the last few months. I decided to open my options, lead a few women on, let them get infatuated and then had to reject some of them. My conscience felt so heavy afterwards and I hated myself for it.

In fact, I spent Friday night lying in bed awake wondering how I was going to reject my Saturday date without hurting her (I was so tired I fell asleep in the cinema).
You have some serious issues Jariel. I have no doubt you are a male AW. This is rare, actually It's the first time I see a male version.

About hurting others. You are hurt if you allow it to hurt you. No one have the power to hurt anyone. However, no one likes to be lead on and getting pissed off is a consequence. Who wouldn't get?

Originally posted by Jariel

People are going to get hurt and that's the nature of the game, but as others have said, women will do the same in your shoes.
You are rationalizing your behavior. "Oh yeah, everyone does it, so I will do it too"!

P.s: Don't think I am telling you off, I just analysed your actions. Everyone has problems, that's why we are here.
 
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I understand fully

Yeah. I know exactly where you're coming from, but ... I don't let it get that far. I even got jeered off some awful AFC forum by saying "with power comes responsibility." The chumps thought I was just being arrogant.

The best thing I can say at this point is a bit of far eastern wisdom: when you bow, bow deeply. The best thing you could do is your best apology to her, and tell her how bad you feel.

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As for Jariel's situation, I'd have to know more details before making any statement to the effect of his "having issues." If you date more than one person, this sort of thing will happen. Sometimes there will not be a clear "#1 choice." The way I handle it is not to take things too far with anyone I'm not sure of...
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Corollary...

The corollary on this is how to handle a siren/AW or whatever you want to call her.

The key is to recognize her for what she is straightaway, and handle her with extreme emotional detatchment. It is quite possible to "out-siren a siren," if you catch my drift. That is the time to be "deadly seductive."
 

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Re: Corollary...

Originally posted by Bonhomme
The corollary on this is how to handle a siren/AW or whatever you want to call her.

The key is to recognize her for what she is straightaway, and handle her with extreme emotional detatchment. It is quite possible to "out-siren a siren," if you catch my drift. That is the time to be "deadly seductive."
My conclusion about Jariel was made based on his own posts. A good reference is this one: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72481

About the Siren. Just use the mirror and do what she does + Don't chase her = She'll fall hard for you.
 

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Blue Phoenix: Yeah, I can see how you draw that conclusion and that thread you posted a link to was definitely indicative of my AW phase, so I agree with you there.

These days I'm not sure. I have turned my fortune around and I do have a lot of women in my life and under my spell and I'm becoming quite a player. However, I don't want to be a player and I can say, hand on heart, I just want a steady and exclusive relationship and when I find it, I'll drop out of the game completely. Unfortunately I'm just not meeting my kind of woman and I'm not willing to settle for something less. This is the only reason I'm playing the field...just like most guys on here.

But I'm not going to say that you are totally wrong, because there is a ring of truth to what you're saying and it's certainly been one of the major issues in my life and one of the big reasons I came here in the first place.
 

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Originally posted by Jariel
Blue Phoenix: Yeah, I can see how you draw that conclusion and that thread you posted a link to was definitely indicative of my AW phase, so I agree with you there.

These days I'm not sure. I have turned my fortune around and I do have a lot of women in my life and under my spell and I'm becoming quite a player. However, I don't want to be a player and I can say, hand on heart, I just want a steady and exclusive relationship and when I find it, I'll drop out of the game completely. Unfortunately I'm just not meeting my kind of woman and I'm not willing to settle for something less. This is the only reason I'm playing the field...just like most guys on here.

But I'm not going to say that you are totally wrong, because there is a ring of truth to what you're saying and it's certainly been one of the major issues in my life and one of the big reasons I came here in the first place.
When I say that you "are" an Aw, I am not saying it to degrade you but to show you that being this way hurts a lot the people who like you. Of course, it's your life. If you want to keep being this way, so be it. If not, great, you can change. I know that I am no guru and that my reasoning may be wrong.
 
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