Daytime Street Game - NEED ADVICE !!!

[Silks]

Hello DJs,

I'm a young aspiring DJ, just discovered pick up and started doing street game (about 6 days). My sticking point is building attraction with older women. I am a good looking guy, and now my opening, body language, speech etc is all confident. But I don't know how I can get attraction in women that are 21+ because they always say I'm too young or ask me how old I am.

Also:
Should I always stop a walking target? Walking with them doesn't feel right.
Can you still attract and close a woman if you have nothing in common?

Which PUA do you guys think is best for daygame? Eg Soul, Paul Janka, Adam Lyons, Ross Jeffries etc?

 

[yuppaz]

Adam Lyons. & Don't work on building attraction work on feeling sexually dominant while you talk to her, don't use the words though just feel it and talk normal. careful pickup is a slippery slope.

 

[n00bPimp]

I dont like walking with them, I try to slowdown to a halt as much as possible unless I sense that she really is in a hurry but is interested.

Paul Janka is pretty gutsy, I like his style.

 

[evansblue]

Paul Janka is the master of day game. No question. I base my game off his blueprint.

 

[Silks]

Adam Lyons. & Don't work on building attraction work on feeling sexually dominant while you talk to her, don't use the words though just feel it and talk normal. careful pickup is a slippery slope.

That's exactly what I've been doing, just talking normally, leading the interaction but sometimes I feel like I'm talking **** and they don't care, because even I don't care what I say as long as its a statement that continues the conversation. That's why I can never remember what I said in set because it's all on the spot.

For example, yesterday I was talking to this woman who was clearly older (about 26) while walking, she was giving me plenty IOIs and laughing, but I didn't close her because I felt like I didn't demonstrate enough value and she wouldn't be interested cos of my age, I was so pissed off after. I still find it hard to believe when an older woman is showing IOIs and I feel like she's just being friendly it's annoying the hell out of me.

 

[yuppaz]

That's exactly what I've been doing, just talking normally, leading the interaction but sometimes I feel like I'm talking **** and they don't care, because even I don't care what I say as long as its a statement that continues the conversation. That's why I can never remember what I said in set because it's all on the spot.

For example, yesterday I was talking to this woman who was clearly older (about 26) while walking, she was giving me plenty IOIs and laughing, but I didn't close her because I felt like I didn't demonstrate enough value and she wouldn't be interested cos of my age, I was so pissed off after. I still find it hard to believe when an older woman is showing IOIs and I feel like she's just being friendly it's annoying the hell out of me.

So she was feeling you but you didn't make any / try to make any plans with her because you are secretly a super mind reader and you just KNOW that because you didn't demonstrate leader of men / protector of loved ones blahblahblah DHV's via story telling that it would have been a waste of your time because there is NO WAY that she could POSSIBLY just like you as you are.....????? THink about that for a bit....that's the slippery slope of pickup. You change everything only to find later that you didn't need to change anything except to be more present and normal and take a shot. Try valuing everything about yourself and realizing why she would be so lucky to be able to get to know you.

I'll tell you, you aren't experienced enough yet to determine if she is hooked for a longer term or not. Sometimes women will hang with you for a while when you first meet them, talk story for an hour and they will never get back to you later. Sometimes you talk to her for 5 minutes and she will HOUND you until you F*CK her damnit!!!!! You get better at determining that over time via experience but you can't get that experience unless you are trying everything and making a follow up / instadate etc. There are no rules to this stuff, but do what you need to to initiate a conversation as a man to a woman, get to know who she is, let her get to know who you are (a little), and make plans to get together again because of *the thing that stood out to you about her*, (not her body though) which should be something you really do like...maybe "I like your positive outlook & think it would be fun to get together again, what are your plans like next week?" If, as you are learning this stuff, you get a lot of hemming and hawing then something isn't going right yet, if she happily tells you when she's free, your doing better....

 

[Silks]

So she was feeling you but you didn't make any / try to make any plans with her because you are secretly a super mind reader and you just KNOW that because you didn't demonstrate leader of men / protector of loved ones blahblahblah DHV's via story telling that it would have been a waste of your time because there is NO WAY that she could POSSIBLY just like you as you are.....????? THink about that for a bit....that's the slippery slope of pickup. You change everything only to find later that you didn't need to change anything except to be more present and normal and take a shot. Try valuing everything about yourself and realizing why she would be so lucky to be able to get to know you.

I'll tell you, you aren't experienced enough yet to determine if she is hooked for a longer term or not. Sometimes women will hang with you for a while when you first meet them, talk story for an hour and they will never get back to you later. Sometimes you talk to her for 5 minutes and she will HOUND you until you F*CK her damnit!!!!! You get better at determining that over time via experience but you can't get that experience unless you are trying everything and making a follow up / instadate etc. There are no rules to this stuff, but do what you need to to initiate a conversation as a man to a woman, get to know who she is, let her get to know who you are (a little), and make plans to get together again because of *the thing that stood out to you about her*, (not her body though) which should be something you really do like...maybe "I like your positive outlook & think it would be fun to get together again, what are your plans like next week?" If, as you are learning this stuff, you get a lot of hemming and hawing then something isn't going right yet, if she happily tells you when she's free, your doing better....

Next time I will definitely will attempt to close. I just found out about David X and his first rule is "Don't worry about what she's thinking" so I'll follow that and just focus on running solid game.

I also realised I have been talking to women with no intention in mind. Now I'm gonna be even more direct and honest and make it clear I just want to **** them (using innuendo and suggestion of course), it will stop me asking questions I don't care about.

 

[Stryker]

Just remember dude, nothing we can say will create that "aha!" moment for you. Just keep doing it, keep practising, you'll get better. Paul Janka says you gotta work for your results, so keep working!