"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Day2 ideas for weeknights, for the mature man?

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I'm looking for some good day2 ideas for weeknights. IDEALLY, some of them would be alcohol-free (e.g. not rely on going to a bar) since I am borderline alcoholic and am trying to cut wayyy back.

I've read some stuff about hanging out at the mall, trying stuff on, joking around, then maybe grabbing a bite to eat, and I'm wondering if in your experience this works with girls of age mid to late 20s. I mean the mall seems so juvenile?

Keys to a day2 seem to be,

- you have a PLAN but can make it look effortless
- PLENTY of venue changes (like, not stay in a venue more than 60-90 min)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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squirrels

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Invite her to your place, watch a DVD...maybe make some food if you're any good.

Out? Play pool, go bowling, even mini-golf isn't TOO childish. If you're gonna go to a restaurant, try to go someplace other than your typical boring sit-down place. For example, there's this Japanese steakhouse near where I live where they prepare the food in front of you, complete with ninja-spatula-twirling, etc...

Picnics, maybe...the zoo?

Or go on a trip to the beach or something. Just think a little...what's fun for YOU? What do you see yourself doing with this girl if you end up spending any real time together? (Besides THAT :D )
 

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squirrels said:
Invite her to your place, watch a DVD...maybe make some food if you're any good.

Out? Play pool, go bowling, even mini-golf isn't TOO childish. If you're gonna go to a restaurant, try to go someplace other than your typical boring sit-down place. For example, there's this Japanese steakhouse near where I live where they prepare the food in front of you, complete with ninja-spatula-twirling, etc...
Picnics, maybe...the zoo?

Or go on a trip to the beach or something. Just think a little...what's fun for YOU? What do you see yourself doing with this girl if you end up spending any real time together? (Besides THAT :D )
Good suggestions. (Highlighted portion is called tepanyaki). I would throw in getting some ice cream and a stroll around a park (it brings back memories of youth). Also, Sushi is a great idea.
 
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