"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Day 2 planned with HB who lives with boyfriend

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I met this HB 6.5 at the Bookstore. I am 31, she is 23. After I chatted with her for about 7 minutes and number closed her, she says

HB : you should have asked me if I have a boyfriend, because I do.
Me: oh, thats nice. I'll give you a call.


I called her and we talked for about 25 minutes. She only mentions boyfriend once in referrence to him buying her a vintage guitar for XMas. She seems very eager to chat as it was difficult to get this HB off the phone. We agree to meet at Starbucks this Tuesday.

I call her tonight (Sunday) to try and build comfort. Here is the convo

me: Hey, this is fan27, how is it going?
HB: Not to good.
Me: I am sorry to hear that. Now not a good time to talk?
HB: Yeah...I am having an issue with my boyfriend/roomate.
me: I understand, we'll talk on tuesday.
HB: ok...I'll be there a little early getting some studying done. I'll call you.
me: bye

I am not looking for an LTR with this HB. But it seems I might be able to exploit the situation to my advantage. I realize that her meeting and talking to me might be just to make her BF jealous. She might be looking for an out and I am just the encouragement she needs.

While I realize that this opportunity might entail some drama, I don't care. It has been longer than I care to remember since I last F#$cked. I would appreciate any pointers from guys who have been presented with similiar opportunities.



thanks
fan27
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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HB 6.5 with boyfriend? Not worth the trouble unless she literally lands on your doorstep in a giftwrapped package with her legs spread.
 
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How is a 6.5 a Hot Babe? 6.5 is slightly above average.

HB does still stand for Hot Babe around here, right?
 
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Whatever happens, it will be additional practice. If it leads to a f%#ck, all the better. I'll post a field report.

fan27
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Had day2 with girl. It was obvious that she was just trying to make her boyfriend jealous. He was aware of our meeting. I tried the boyfriend destroyer but it kind of backfired....who cares. Only 1 hour and no money spent as she already had her Chai when I arrived.

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Dude I probly woulda done the same shyt! :(
 
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