"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I've read both 2 ebooks, the advanced series and the ****y comedy program.
It sure has some interesting things like the story about the 3 parts of the brain, the older brain overruling the younger one(s).
It helped me improve quite a bit but I'm not using his stuff for real long (only two weeks of the 90 day commitment) and I sure used some things that we're absolutely better then what I would do before. I just started reading some things first, then later slowly injecting them into my own life. Actually I'm still the same person, I just mess with girls a little more.
Besides that, the ****y comedy program also has some good funny moments and I can recommend anyone to buy *cough*down*cough*load*cough* it. It's also a good encourager to just don't give a **** about what's going to happen and that will definetly help you to be more confident towards women.
 

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I found the DavidD stuff a few months back
the 2 books
and there is 2 seminars , 12 hrs and 20 hrs

listen to em a lot in the car

there is so much in there , some of it was just too intense to keep up with such as the biology of things ,

but now reading and listening to all of it i look back at the last 15 years of my life and there is so much of what he says that just blew me away as have seen it, a lot of it i already knew but until you hear it you dont realise it all but it is confirmed and then its game on

looked closely at the girls i have seen this year and did my fair share of wussy behaviour earlier in the year and lost a great one that was going along just nicely but i moved on and was all the better for it

then met a HB9+ right before i started the DYD stuff and in the middle of it despite reading it all still acted like a wussy and lost her but in the end she was a pain in the ass and flaky and the DYD stuff really got hammered home to me from these experiences

now have a little hottie that just wanted to be friends and has progressed along just nicely, right now its a casual thing , we get together regularly , hang out , she puts out and when we go out she pays her own way :) we both do our own thing and she loves the fact that i have my own friends, do my own stuff, put no pressure on her , and respect her space , she is displaying all the buying signs and i am in the control of it, life is good
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Originally posted by Dust 2 Dust
I agree that his methods are a fraud to a point.

****y and funny does not create attraction. Attraction is a biological urge such as hunger and cannot be magically created if the woman isn't physically attracted to you.

He also charges 40$ for an e-book which is a ripoff IMO. For 40$ I expect to have an actual print book that I can hold in my hand and place on my bookshelf for quick and easy studying.
wtf r u talkin bout? In his first part of the 6 movies he says allmost in the begining that attraction can't be created!!! He talks about how chicks are attracted more to a personalty than looks! So if you use C+F in the SECOND you meet a girl, girl WILL be attracted to you if she sees something special in you!!

Thing is, everybody here who call him froud didn't understand a **** about what he is talking about!
 

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Are the seminars about attraction, life, limiting beliefs and all that kind of psychology? Or does it include a lot of b*ll**** like planned lines, 'how to be ****y and funny' and other gimmicks?
 

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My favourite concept/part was on the internal locus of control.
 

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He is a businessman with "informational products" as his forte.

He is probably good with women, but I know there are people out there MUCH better than he is.

He has some great info tho, but I could never pay for any of it.
 

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Originally posted by green69
Are the seminars about attraction, life, limiting beliefs and all that kind of psychology? Or does it include a lot of b*ll**** like planned lines, 'how to be ****y and funny' and other gimmicks?
yes to all of the above

it gives you a whole lot to think about , its a lot about yourself and your frame of mind ,

you gotta have a good base and work from that

one of his things is pickup lines thats right at the end and even then you dont really get any 'lines or openers'

has a few guest speakers which is also great as gives more perspectives to look at

the first set of seminars has a lot of audience input asking questions which is great
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Originally posted by Heyjose25points
I do agree that being ****y and funny creates attraction is bull as attraction is always initial, but many of the other stuff he mentions are insightful, IMO.
Physical attraction is initial but lots of guys have that.

Attraction to your personality and masculine aura is a whole different story and more important.
 

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I don't see any reason for any of you to critize... Unless you are as good as david or have your own program.

You guys complaining are probably afc's who are jealous of people like david d..

He's trying to help people... Don't Fxck with him.
 

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Why would he be a fraud. He offers his programs and books. If you don't like them you get your money back. Simple as that. You can even keep them for wasting your time. Know I didn't pay anything for his stuff, cause I'm not able to. But if I would meet him in person I would give him some money and my appreciation, cause this guy talks about some interesting stuff that works and helps you. I'm not saying that anything he says is perfect, but he sure has a lot of good points and info. For some people things that he says are obvious but for some people they aren't or they have never really thought about it. He sure gave me a lot of 'eyeopeners'. He focuses more on the inner game then the outer game which I think is good.
 

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I've been listening to his mastery lectures in montreal and they're even better than the double your dating videos. They feel a lot more polished for some reason.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I was a skeptic going into his material but I must say it really changed parts of the way I think right away. Didn't even have to wait 90 days (as he wants everyone to give what he teaches 90 days to sink in).

The part of his lecture about everyone being a guest in your reality and you projecting your reality onto others is just very powerful. Its true though, the person who projects their version of reality the most convincingly is the one whose reality ultimatley prevails.

There is just so much!
 

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The mistake that people make with ****y Comedy is that people think that it's EVERYTHING. They think that that ALONE is going to create attraction for a woman.

****y and Funny is a TOOL that is in your toolbox. It should be used as a TOOL and not as your method. Using only c&f is like using only a hammer to build a house. David Deangelo actually says this in his series but people don't really tend to listen.

I listened to a few things by him and he seems like he truly knows what he's talking about.
 

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Yeah, David DeAngelo called people who say "I went up to this girl and I did c&f to get her to whatever" simply as "jackasses".

It is a great tool and it should be used sparingly. If every word out of your mouth is like that you just come accross as an a-hole or arrogant jerk. Its good to use a couple of c&f lines when they are appropriate, but be normal the rest of the time.
 

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for everyone who has not read Davids book: YOU MUST GO GET IT NOW, YOU WILL NOT BE DISSAPOINTED, also, if you actually read the preface, he says "The best way to use it is to read it and find all of the parts that you
like and all of the ideas, skills and techniques that you would like to work on and improve." That does not mean go out and do everything he says will work, only what you think will work for you. I think that is the big problem with alot of people who say he is jus a fraud, they actually try and use EVERYTHING he says, and not what will work for them:cool:
 

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David D. is a good man.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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