"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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david deangelo vs. ross jeffries

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Oldie but a goodie thread. A lot of people accuse Ross of being a quack but back it up with little supporting evidence. Have they tried his methods and had undesirable outcomes?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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i'd say it depends on your preference. to me deagelo seems more passionate about what he preaches and he seems like he genuinely wants to help out guys that lost their way. jeffries reminds me of a bitter nerd that has found the magic bullet to getting women into bed and you can hear it in his voice. but they both know their stuff.

people say their stuff is a waste of money. but whats worse. going to the bar spending hundreds of dollars on drinks going home alone or spending a few hundred on learning how women actually operate and increasing your opportunity to bring some girls home.
 
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ROOKIE OF THE YEAR said:
if AFC wants to be successful with women, should they go for which one more?
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Ross Jeffries Unstoppable Confidence.

I finished the course a week ago, and it has helped a lot. You need some confidence in you before you can go out and approach women and run an outer game.

Then go for Swinggcat's Guide to Real World Seduction, Mystery's Venusian Arts Handbook, then David DeAngelo's Double Your Dating.

I may get flamed, or warned or whatever for this, but if you want some of these stuff PM me.
 
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Jesus-thefvckbastard-Christ. More lambs being led to the slaughter. Deangelo is a snake oil salesman. Ross Jeffries is a lunatic with an out of control ego. Mystery is a flake who dresses like a chick to get chicks like those godawful glamrock 80's bands; Poison, White Lion, that kinda sh!t. Style wrote a book but after seeing him on youtube I wholeheartedly believe he's a fvcking fairy.

My point is do the work yourself. The DJ Bible is a good start which is why it's recommended before you do or believe any bullsh!t seduction e-book.
 
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KarmaSutra said:
Jesus-thefvckbastard-Christ. More lambs being led to the slaughter. Deangelo is a snake oil salesman. Ross Jeffries is a lunatic with an out of control ego. Mystery is a flake who dresses like a chick to get chicks like those godawful glamrock 80's bands; Poison, White Lion, that kinda sh!t. Style wrote a book but after seeing him on youtube I wholeheartedly believe he's a fvcking fairy.

My point is do the work yourself. The DJ Bible is a good start which is why it's recommended before you do or believe any bullsh!t seduction e-book.
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Thank you.

I've become disillusioned with most of the so-called "gurus"

when you look in the mirror, who stares back at you? Not Mystery, David D, Jeffries or any other guru; but you.

Thats not to say you cant learn something from them, but you need to become the best YOU that you can be, rather than a carbon copy of a "seduction guru".
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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What specifically about these seduction e-books is bullsh!t? Do you have to apply every single concept from theme or can you take nuggets that may help you and ignore the sections that do not?

Why are guys who have had years in this game already criticizing these books? The DJ Bible has posts that were made by some of these e-book authors. Yes, take what anyone says with a grain of salt including me, but why cant you use these books to help improve your communication abililities?
 
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KarmaSutra said:
Jesus-thefvckbastard-Christ. More lambs being led to the slaughter. Deangelo is a snake oil salesman. Ross Jeffries is a lunatic with an out of control ego. Mystery is a flake who dresses like a chick to get chicks like those godawful glamrock 80's bands; Poison, White Lion, that kinda sh!t. Style wrote a book but after seeing him on youtube I wholeheartedly believe he's a fvcking fairy.

My point is do the work yourself. The DJ Bible is a good start which is why it's recommended before you do or believe any bullsh!t seduction e-book.
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You are being way to close minded, you have already bought into the negative sh!t, a negative frame on these materials.

Fine, have it your way, more for me.
 
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You are being way to close minded, you have already bought into the negative sh!t, a negative frame on these materials.

Fine, have it your way, more for me.
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Wrong Jack, I've read thier schpeel and watched the Mystery,Ross Jeffries and Deangelo DVDs so I can attest to the fact that they fvcking fruity.

Keep this in mind:

Know thy enemy

I'm not saying these guys haven't brought things out into the open and clarified it but to list it as the Gospel according to _________ is outright defamation for every guy who has done the work and not based everything on peacocking or canned bullsh!t lines.

You can spout about the nuances of NLP, Speed Seduction,C&F,**** and balls and whatever damned ****amamie discipline you follow but don't ever believe that one guy has all the answers. Catholics and Christian fundamentalists do that sh!t.
 
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