David DeAngelo - Now a Millionaire

[COD]

HE HAS BEEN A MULTI-MILLIONAIRE FOR OVER A DECADE............

DOUBLE YOUR DATING has raked in over 20 million dollars

His investment, get rich programs have made others rich too.

As far as paying for books and applying it to your own life...........

TONS OR PEOPLE have done so..............

to great success..............EXAMPLE...........STYLE ........REAL SOCIAL DYNAMICS..........about to HAVE A MOVIE OUT BASED UPON THE GAME.......was a student of MYSTERY.

 

[squirrels]

The term "sore loser" comes to mind here.

You might be right. I just could never get my head around "sales". I know people who do it reasonably well...I know this one ugly, depressed MF who I met on a forum once...pulls arse more than 98% of people on this forum because he "tells them what they want to hear". I'm a brutally honest person, myself.

You say, "marketing is what matters"...which is true in a lot of cases, but that doesn't make the product itself any better. Marketing is a way of taking advantage of people who fail to think for themselves.

Sales, to me, is "creating the illusion of value where none exists". Essentially, giving something value not based on merit, but on perspective.

You really have to BELIEVE your own BS to do that kind of thing...and that's a big part of "pick-up game" as well. My "game" was sharpest when I believed my own BS. I was at a point once where I was so wrapped up in my own nonsense that it almost felt tangible, like I had almost sold myself on it. During that time, my "game" was hands-down THE strongest that it had ever been.

Then I had an epiphany. Like when you're trying to joke with/f*ck with someone and you're trying desperately to keep a straight face and be believable, but you just bust out laughing because you realize how full of sh*t you are. It happened at the most unlikely of times, too...when I was half-naked on my living-room floor with THE most beautiful woman I had ever hooked up with up to that point. I guess my mind just snapped out of disbelief or something...who knows. I remember distinctly saying to myself in my head, "What the f**k am I doing here?? With THIS girl??"

Since then, I've always looked with a certain measure of disgust at people who still have yet to have their, "Emperor has no clothes" moment...and laughed at the people who were so taken in by "marketing" that they were too blind to see it.

Most of this seduction stuff runs off of the power of suggestion. It's not the "material", it's the suggestion that the new "Juan" is armed with a weapon of immense power in the form of "DYD" or some other romantic advice. The very sensation of "I CAN" empowers him to try, and he finds that he indeed CAN. But is it the "material"? Or is it just that initial burst of confidence driving him to do what he NATURALLY KNEW how to do anyway??

And what happens when that burst of confidence leads him to a place where even HE cannot imagine himself? His "world" cracks and then shatters.

 

[Mistic]

Sales, to me, is "creating the illusion of value where none exists". Essentially, giving something value not based on merit, but on perspective.

Unfortunately, like most people, your idea of sales is negative and incorrect. What you are referring to is being scammed, not being sold. The true definition of selling is "Giving the customer sufficient information to make an intelligent buying decision, be it yes, or no."


Selling is giving, not taking. You give people info about what you are selling. They decide if they want what you have based on the info, and then they make a decision. It's that simple.

When you talk to a girl, look at her, touch her, you are giving her information on many levels. If you are truly confident, she understands that, even subconsciously. If you are a sleaze pretending to be out for her best interests, she will receive that info as well. She may make her decision to like you even though you have given her bad info, but that's women now right. Dumb.

This is why "fake it till you make it" theory doesn't work. You cant fake it. Everyone can see through everyone else's game. Think about it. The only ones who can trick people are sociopaths who are truly disturbed and can seem sincere even when they are not. Otherwise there is only truth. This is why natural game, and being real are always better seduction approaches. If your an ahole, dont pretend to be a nice guy. Go weith the A-hole method and a certain amount of women/customers want that product. If you are a nice guy, pretending to be ****y/funny wont work, but some girl out there actually likes nice guys. Get it. OK. HEY

 

[kingsam]

i got Double your dating off a torrent long ago...glad i didnt pay £250 for it, thought it was crap

i remember there was a chapter in it that said "go and buy XXX book for this" ...wtf !???

his email newsletter is ok for getting into the zone - motivation and confidence to approach a lot

his best contribution was the term "****y and funny" which is a really good way of exaplaining how to chat to people/chicks

he also probably gets lots of his business via askmen.com which has a lot of traffic and he has weekly articles (and advertising)

 

[Razor Sharp]

@kingsam,

250 quid? Seriously??

Someone was totally ripping you off bro. DYD sold for 30 USD when it came out and now its down to 20. Now THAT is underhanded!

@Mistic,

That book sounds interesting. PM me more info!

@squirrels,

People have a very skewed idea of marketing because of all the scams. As an example - 90% of all email traffic is spam, but that doesnt mean you should ignore the usefulness of the remaining 10%

Personally I believe that "white hat" marketing (the opposite of the snake-oil kind) does more than just sell a product. A salesman worth his salt knows that the best way to become memorable to people is to TEACH them. This is beyond just helping them make a solid purchasing decision, it's a way of making their lives better free of charge. In a sense it's being more honest with them about the subject at hand than anyone has ever been.

This is why I shake my head at people who think that marketing is all about lying, creating illusions and such. You may win a lot of gullible customers that way, but you can forget about repeat business. Loyalty only comes when you stack value on TOP of what you are selling, basically making an offer they can't refuse.

You really have to BELIEVE your own BS to do that kind of thing...and that's a big part of "pick-up game" as well. My "game" was sharpest when I believed my own BS. I was at a point once where I was so wrapped up in my own nonsense that it almost felt tangible, like I had almost sold myself on it. During that time, my "game" was hands-down THE strongest that it had ever been.

There is much to be said for the power of the mind. You essentially chose an inferior reality over any other simply because you did not deem yourself worthy. If I'm not mistaken you've probably sabotaged yourself with women ever since.

In a sense you were right though. Everyone bought your persona except you, and I'm sure that not only made you disgusted with yourself, but probly turned you off to the game in general. You were a black-hat marketer whose conscience eventually caught up with him.

My heart goes out to you man. I've been through that myself and it's a tough rut to get out of. The only way out is to build the product (you) up to the point where there is no more faking value. You take a humbler view of the world and decide to become its student, instead of assuming you know everything about the game you let yourself get schooled in the many classrooms that life has to offer.

This way when that HB 9.9 comes along, you actually have something to offer other than a psychological doppleganger - and you can school her a bit too. Offer some tangible value aside from your penis and false-confidence.

Why base your game on BS, when you can be genuinely great??

 

[SamePendo]

Razor:

Anything online you recommend on basic marketing stuff? That stuff is so interesting and I concur with your points of view. What do you do for a living?

 

[Oxide]

HE HAS BEEN A MULTI-MILLIONAIRE FOR OVER A DECADE............

DOUBLE YOUR DATING has raked in over 20 million dollars

His investment, get rich programs have made others rich too.

As far as paying for books and applying it to your own life...........

TONS OR PEOPLE have done so..............

to great success..............EXAMPLE...........STYLE ........REAL SOCIAL DYNAMICS..........about to HAVE A MOVIE OUT BASED UPON THE GAME.......was a student of MYSTERY.

Damn, I am in the wrong business. Quick, everyone paypal me $100 and I'll tell you how to get da womenz in 30 seconds

 

[Razor Sharp]

SamePendo, there is a wealth of info online - unfortunately much of it is built around pyramid schemes and dishonest people (think FOREX). If you want a legitimate head start and are a total newb to online marketing check out: http://www.clickbankcashsystem.org/

The guy offers a 60 day moneyback guarantee and is overall a good fella. He answered a few of my questions directly and is the real McCoy. You can also find his material on torrents (though I do not condone or encourage that kind of activity)

Basically you can make a lot of money - but you must first learn the way the system works and how to build your own mini-system which will generate cash for you. This guy teaches you how to find top selling e-goods, how to pimp them and make a nice chunk off commissions.

My buddy that I mentioned started out selling 4 diff products in the self-help and health categories. He made an extra 300-400 a month initially and thats roughly what I am seeing now. After a year of him perfecting his technique purely with trial and error, the guy is almost up to 6 figures a year, with very minimal work involved now that he has momentum.

As for my 9-5, I'm a salesman. I've worked the cliche beat at the used car shop - I've worked in real estate and most recently have started selling internet services for various companies online. My forte is cold calling, something most sales people shy away from due to low closing rates. Personally, I love the rush of turning a total stranger into a trusting customer in the span of minutes, but that's just me. You gotta love this line of work to be any good at it.