David DeAngelo is not a player

[Ace of Flames]

Why do you think DD is a messiah to us? I don't recall anyone giving him such a nice title except you. Personally, I like the guy. But I'd never give him so much credit as to be the answers to my prayers, or any other drastic idea. You make it seem like people worship him. That's just not true.

Look, when I need something, I don't really care where I get it from. Does it matter if DD is saying what others have said before him? No. Everything on this earth has been thought of before. All we DO is rehash ideas. There is hardly anything truly original anymore. We've just been here too long.

The way ideas get developed and refined is as follows: Someone comes up with it, and tells of his findings. Another person takes those results, and adds his own thoughts. And so on and so on. Just think of DD as adding his own thoughts to previous ideas.

 

[KarmaSutra]

You have made my point succinctly. He is no "guru". He's a salesman,albeit a good one, but still just a salesman.

 

[Rint]

He's a con artist he is no player or DJ i hate this guy because these guys are going around feeling insecure and despretly trying to improve and find hope and he's useing this weakness to get money or to try and feel big by offering some false hope with this bull **** of his.

 

[KarmaSutra]

He's a con artist he is no player or DJ i hate this guy because these guys are going around feeling insecure and despretly trying to improve and find hope and he's useing this weakness to get money or to try and feel big by offering some false hope with this bull **** of his.

One has returned from the dark side . . . who's next?

 

[Ace of Flames]

The definition of guru is someone who has lots of knowledge on a subject. Not experience, knowledge. In that sense, DD is a perfectly acceptable guru.

But I don't like the term. All DD, Mystery, and the others really are are just faces of the community. There are regular joes who get more women more often than they do, but the difference is, the "gurus" made the effort to put it out there before everyone else. They were the first, that's why they're famous. No other reasons really.

 

[THE_ADDMAN]

Ok, you have an opinion.

and?

I'm so glad you have come to this "Oh so wise discovery", because I mean..you're obviously right.. ya know? Because your opinions the only one that matters right?

C'mon dude, just shove it, if people don't like his stuff than..ok, if they do.. ok Not that huge of a deal.

Personally I think some of his tips are helpful, others aren't.

Nothing to post a new thread about. Especially saying you're right and everyone else is wrong you sanctimonious son of a bitch.

Let people have their own opinions...ya jerk.

yes, he has an opinion. so do you. dont put him down for his.

this is a DISCUSSION board :cheer:

 

[unorthodox]

This thread has become my **** bigger than yours. You all are insecure in one way or the other, a simple fact that you have to defend or bad mouth DD means you are insecure.





As for me, I have all his books and all his tapes. No I didn't pay for them (nor read them all yet). I downloaded them off eMule. www.emule-project.net... :rockon:

The book double your dating, the one that I actually read entirely, helped me a lot. It done to me one big thing among many, that is now I know this **** could be studied and it's not about chances or whether you look good..... Now in my experience, as I've seen successful guys do it, after reading the book it all came to me together. I now have idea of what to be, I'm not there yet, but I know what to do.

Another thing, I lost some of my initial confidence when I came to these fvcking forums.

 

[everywomanshero]

Whether DD is a "PUA" or not doesn't much matter. I'm not sure he ever claimed himself to be one anyway? He sells products which are mostly aimed at guys who have a lot of problems with women and just need to get their heads out of their a$$es. Actually, a lot of his guest speakers are really good. There is some excellent tips in there. I haven't watched his new stuff, because it seemed like he was starting to rehash the same stuff as all 'gurus' tend to start doing after a while... 90% rehashed stuff, 10% (or less) new ideas. David D's older stuff is still worth looking at, no, I wouldn't really be willing to purchase it, but (not to excuse it) that's not how (I suppose) most people obtain his material anyway.

Now, the really funny thing is we are on here debating him. David D wouldn't waste the time out of his life to come on here and defend himself. Why? Because he is filthy fvcking rich by now, can travel to new cities and get paid for it, etc. It would be better for us to build a productive life (as he has) than to debate whether or not David D is a PUA to death, something that makes no difference in his ability to arrange guest speakers, which was always his real strength anyway.

 

[Call_Me_Daddy]

David DeAngelo is not a player i bought some of his stuff and listen and read it. It's very un DJ it makes me sick it sounds so bad it's AFK. He tells us to imitate the best and do it by getting him chicks and paying for all his drinks pretty much be his *****. That is pathetic. Another thing is he dousn't act like we have a choice to listen to him or not which sounds kinda DJ, but he's teaching us his philosophies and how we MUST follow them. David DeAngelo is not a player AC/DC, POOK, Senior Fingers, and Mr.Fingz

No he isn't. His name isn't even David DeAngelo. That's just a marketing ploy. The guy is a businessman by the name of Eben Pagan. He markets his products toward frustrated AFCs that want to get laid. And of course alot of his stuff doesn't really work. It just makes the AFCs feel better thinking that they can throw a bunch of pickup lines and lame scripted jokes and have the hot chicks all over them.

In the real life, this doesn't work.

If you want the 9s and 10s you have to be successful and/or famous.

Here it is in order of importance:

1. Money.
2. Fame.
3. Looks.
4. Personality and attitude.

The more you have out of that list... the better.

Look at all the famous dudes. The clebrities, the CEOs of companies, the Self-Made millionaires... etc. They all have hot babes around them. And I'm not talking about regular hot. I mean Ms. Universe pageant hot.

 

[mrRuckus]

My first rule of message boards is anyone who ends a paragraph with "end of story" or "period" is to have his post disregarded.

 

[everywomanshero]

OMG clearly this is the advice we want to follow:

You have to be rich or famous to get hot chicks!!!!!

That's too much! DD's advice truly is crap compared to
this

I am not rich nor famous, I don't think I am wilding good looking.

My LTR is both hot and classy. I have dated very hot strippers
and extremely hot chicks ranging from divorced housewives to
computer support technicians.

Claiming one has to be rich or famous or wildly good looking is an excuse. In the poorest part of my city, I see black guys with *no car* PUing hottie white chicks. I did when I drove a piece of crap car and only worked 20 hours a week. Let's get real, it doesn't hurt to be rich or famous or good looking, but to think those are the keys to success is really outrageous. Guys who think like this need to go back and do David D's courses again, didn't stick the first time!

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

My first rule of message boards is anyone who ends a paragraph with "end of story" or "period" is to have his post disregarded.

Best piece of advice I've heard in a long time.

 

[Call_Me_Daddy]

Let's get real, it doesn't hurt to be rich or famous or good looking, but to think those are the keys to success is really outrageous. Guys who think like this need to go back and do David D's courses again, didn't stick the first time!

The more money and fame you got... the better quality chicks you will afford and the hotter and younger they are.

 

[Ace of Flames]

The more money and fame you got... the better quality chicks you will afford and the hotter and younger they are.

Afford? So you pay for your women? You have learned nothing, grasshopper.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Afford? So you pay for your women? You have learned nothing, grasshopper.

Maybe he uses coupons.

 

[BigFoot]

Dave D. would be a loser with women if he practiced what he preaches.
His "Unexpected Attraction Secret" starts on a good premise, but gives some
real lousy advice. If you start to kid a woman about her low status the way he suggests she's probably going to be offended in a serious way and you'll lose her for good. Some Police officers appeal to some women, but alot of women have no interest in them: to use Dave D's own logic, it's because police officers are low-status to alot of people. If you follow Dave D's advice, you will mess up,
and then feel like you made a mistake somehow but really taking his advice is the mistake you made.

 

[Ace of Flames]

Dave D. would be a loser with women if he practiced what he preaches.
His "Unexpected Attraction Secret" starts on a good premise, but gives some
real lousy advice. If you start to kid a woman about her low status the way he suggests she's probably going to be offended in a serious way and you'll lose her for good. Some Police officers appeal to some women, but alot of women have no interest in them: to use Dave D's own logic, it's because police officers are low-status to alot of people. If you follow Dave D's advice, you will mess up,
and then feel like you made a mistake somehow but really taking his advice is the mistake you made.

Like any and all advice you hear in this community, take it with a grain of salt.

Lol Francisco, I think he has food stamps, and he trades them for pink tacos and tossed salad.

 

[Call_Me_Daddy]

You can't be a broke ass loser and pull the hot 10s. No matter how good your game is.

If you want the top desirable females... you got to be a desirable male. Money, power, fame. All important. Mix that in with some looks and personality and game... and you're unstoppable. You'll be beating them off of you.



But hey! I guess you can be out of shape, uneducated, and but ugly... and as long as you say ****y Funny and Neg hits.. they'll be all over you. Right?

LOL!

 

[SamePendo]

Look at all the famous dudes. The clebrities, the CEOs of companies, the Self-Made millionaires... etc. They all have hot babes around them. And I'm not talking about regular hot. I mean Ms. Universe pageant hot.

Uhm... no?

Don't stick your insecurities into rafcs. Seek help in curing your insecurities.

One can get that ***** even by being a "broke ass loser". But he who does is a fool, and should know better than to limit his success in life to just women and should seek to fulfill his goals and dreams, as a man.

 

[Ace of Flames]

But hey! I guess you can be out of shape, uneducated, and but ugly... and as long as you say ****y Funny and Neg hits.. they'll be all over you. Right?

LOL!

Of course, you have to give the absolute extreme for your point to be valid. >_>

Its highly unlikely that anyone here is all three of those things. And even if they are, you can change the first two.

You're forgetting that part of, no, the main part of being a DJ is self-improvement. So alongside learning to be C+F and such, you should be working out and striving for a better career. Once you have all these things going for you, then the girls will be all over you.