Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Wow, that affair you had with Bob Dole really made you bitter MW!!!
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
David DeAngelo comes through! :)
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Dark Nimbus
Senior Don Juan
At 24 you're only a couple of years away from saggy tits so you're one to speak. The bottom line is you women are at a major disadvantage as you age, and saggy balls or not, men will always have an easy time dating younger girls. After all those years of picking and choosing which guy to sleep with, the tables get turned and you know this. That's why you sound bitter.
Derek Flint
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BS - I banged a hot 23 year old on Saturday night that I met outside of a club and I'm 44
And I'm certainly not rich.
If I had your limiting beliefs, I would have never approached her or even went out that night.
Snatchmaster
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Snatchmaster
Don Juan
What we have here is an attention wh0re. This is a men's club, MW. We dont' come here to listen to women or ask their advice. Go back to Dating Advice Forum; you'll get a better reception.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
MysteryWoman
Master Don Juan
Your gender can because you have more money than us on average. God it is easy for women to decieve those middle age men. They are probably f*ucking some male hottie on the side
Genghis Juan
Senior Don Juan
What the hell is this thread? A cheap plug for DeAngelo? I read a few of his articles, long winded in his description of vague concepts, and short on any specifics. Garbage if you ask me. Much like Doc Love; his System is really only for people who REALLY have no clue (like those who belch on a date). The DJB is all you need (and its free).
Mystery Woman, what is it that you want? If you know as much about men as you claim, you really don't need to be here.
Mystery Woman, what is it that you want? If you know as much about men as you claim, you really don't need to be here.
PocoDiablo
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And I am 35, dating a 21 year old (well, now she is 22) for close to a year. Absolute perfect chemistry.
I saw a movie that kind of summed it up for me - at least partially. Some woman accused a man of dating a younger girl and said to him "She only dates you because she is in awe of you." Yeah, it is true. An older man is more mature, treats her better, and all that. And there is NOTHING wrong with that.
But the flip side that they fail to mention is that older men are also in awe of younger women. Why? Well, for me, it's simple. Older women are often complete and total witches.
[Replace the W with a B there...]
I divorced my ex-wife who was thirty. I was with her for 11 years. She was a witch when I met her, and we never had chemistry. Why we got married I don't know. Bad relationship from the beginning. We are both much happier now. However, all the older women I met and dated after the divorce were so "used" in my opinion. Heartless, cold, and boring. I met my GF purely by accident and thought she was older.
I'm not complaining now, though.
I'd do it again in a heartbeat IF the chemistry was there.
ER!C L!VE
Master Don Juan
I'd still be asking for a girl's HOME number if all I used was the Don Juan Bible. It needs some major revamping. It should delve further into online dating, text messaging, older men/younger women age dynamics, as well as a few other topics.
Anyway, bro, I just thought it was nice that he addressed it as the issue of older men dating younger women has not been active discussed around here until recently.
Cheers!
Eric
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Before you bash DeAngelo, do more than read of few of the articles he emails out free.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Derek Flint
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Most guys their age do things like take them to a kegger party at a frat house and dinner at McDonald's.Originally posted by PocoDiablo
And I am 35, dating a 21 year old (well, now she is 22) for close to a year. Absolute perfect chemistry.
I saw a movie that kind of summed it up for me - at least partially. Some woman accused a man of dating a younger girl and said to him "She only dates you because she is in awe of you." Yeah, it is true. An older man is more mature, treats her better, and all that. And there is NOTHING wrong with that.
But the flip side that they fail to mention is that older men are also in awe of younger women. Why? Well, for me, it's simple. Older women are often complete and total witches.
[Replace the W with a B there...]
I divorced my ex-wife who was thirty. I was with her for 11 years. She was a witch when I met her, and we never had chemistry. Why we got married I don't know. Bad relationship from the beginning. We are both much happier now. However, all the older women I met and dated after the divorce were so "used" in my opinion. Heartless, cold, and boring. I met my GF purely by accident and thought she was older.
I'm not complaining now, though.
I'd do it again in a heartbeat IF the chemistry was there.
When an older guy with some style and some game comes along, he can sweep her off her feet.
Personally, I'd like to find a girl about 28 years old to get serious with, but that's not going to stop me from banging all the young girls that I can while I can.
Not that I'm out there banging a different 21 year old every weekend, but I do alright. After I hook up with some 23 year old like I did the other night, I feel 20 years younger.
Its like the Fountain of Youth.
Life is short and you live it only once - make it as memorable and fun as possible.
Someday soon it'll all be over, and all that's left are the memories.
Dark Nimbus
Senior Don Juan
I guess you haven't been listening since you still think money is the only reason younger girls date older guys. Think what you want, you're only lying to yourself. As for decieving middle aged men, well, stupidity has no age and most guys are morons when it comes to handling women. Maybe you should find yourself a real man instead of dating chumps.Originally posted by MysteryWoman
Your gender can because you have more money than us on average. God it is easy for women to decieve those middle age men. They are probably f*ucking some male hottie on the side
MysteryWoman
Master Don Juan
Trust me luv, 99% percent of 20 year olds are not sexually attracted to middle age. Middle age men are nothing more than meal ticket
PocoDiablo
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So if that is the case, look for the 1%.
I was dead broke when I met my GF, so it was highly unlikely she's dating me for my bills.
I was dead broke when I met my GF, so it was highly unlikely she's dating me for my bills.
DonRob
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If you believe that you must walk around your life with your eyes closed...
I personally routinely date women 15-20 years my junior.
But your welcome to believe your view of things along with the tooth fairy and santa clause if you wish.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Dark Nimbus
Senior Don Juan
Honestly, I think she's in total denial. There's plenty of girls that love, and will only date older guys. Usually you either get a reaction of "ewww that's gross" or "hell yeah older men are sexy". It's rare to have a grey area when it comes to this topic. I've even converted girls who thought it was gross to thinking older men are the ONLY way to go. All it took was a bit of time chatting with me one on one and they were sold.
Tic Tock Tic Tock... you know what that sound is MysteryWoman?
MysteryWoman
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Well if that is the case why the hell do you hang around here regularly
Derek Flint
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Well, he has 3 posts in 3 months, so I wouldn't exactly call that "hanging around here regulary"Originally posted by MysteryWoman
Well if that is the case why the hell do you hang around here regularly
BTW, just what are you doing here?
Soma
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Are you saying you don't?
Research.
Since the age of time, women have sought older men. It's only been in traditional "American" societies where "Political Correctness" and "Morality" is foisted upon us men that being with someone of our own age has been stressed so much.
See the harems of women still in operation in the middle east. See the growing gap of new middle aged men entering the market seeking college women. See foreign countries. See the countless books reviewing trends in mating.
US culture has sought to bring equality to bear upon traditional relationship strategies only to watch them go down in flames. The younger woman/older man strategy is the PERFECT mating/dating strategy for new society.
Why?
Because on the whole, most women won't be able to manage on their own. Notice I said MOST, not ALL. Due in large part to the conflicting desires to have a family, have a corporate job path, and the increasing costs of raising a family. Many women go to college for Teaching, Nursing, and Administrative positions that require LOTS of upfront costs, but return little income, making them fully dependent on 2 occupations, or preventing them from living the bacheloress lifestyle taught to them through culture.
The fact younger women dupe older men isn't without merit, but it's precisely the older men who can smell out such bvllsh!t before it gets too out of control. When a younger woman tests a man her own age, it's typically to see if he's man enough. Sh!t tests are a common strategy of women to determine if he's fvck worthy. Such tests are Aced by experienced men, which is why you boys afraid to act should be acting for no other reason than to EXPERIENCE, and even FAIL if you have to.
There's far deeper reasons behind the cultural, biological and hormonal reasons behind what we do, but that's more for a thesis, than a posting.
Bottom line:
Men seek attractive partners who demonstrate compassion and partnership. Marriage is a contract like any other, and as it stands, we enter it with certain ASSUMPTIONS. As men, it's beauty, compassion, partnership, child-rearing, and support. When these factors decline, as some women let them go, it's only natural for men to leave, or seek side-partners.
Women seek partners who are first, able to handle their children, provide for them, protect them in a modern society sort of way, and partner with them. When a man loses his money, or resources, or his mind, most women leave him. Financial matters are one of the top reasons divorce occurs, so it should be no surprise that men divorce, or seek mistresses because passion and attraction declined or was lost. You don't have to look like Britney Spears, but you should respect your body enough all throughout life.
These trends won't be bucked, and attempting to do so is deluding yourself into believing that we aren't animals. We (being men and women) are animals, albeit higher forms of them. Yet, we still maintain our evolutionary nature.
I've dated younger, as low as 17, and fun it is, serious it's not. Variety is the spice of life, and you know not where a potential partner can come from. So try them all out.
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Since the age of time, women have sought older men. It's only been in traditional "American" societies where "Political Correctness" and "Morality" is foisted upon us men that being with someone of our own age has been stressed so much.
See the harems of women still in operation in the middle east. See the growing gap of new middle aged men entering the market seeking college women. See foreign countries. See the countless books reviewing trends in mating.
US culture has sought to bring equality to bear upon traditional relationship strategies only to watch them go down in flames. The younger woman/older man strategy is the PERFECT mating/dating strategy for new society.
Why?
Because on the whole, most women won't be able to manage on their own. Notice I said MOST, not ALL. Due in large part to the conflicting desires to have a family, have a corporate job path, and the increasing costs of raising a family. Many women go to college for Teaching, Nursing, and Administrative positions that require LOTS of upfront costs, but return little income, making them fully dependent on 2 occupations, or preventing them from living the bacheloress lifestyle taught to them through culture.
The fact younger women dupe older men isn't without merit, but it's precisely the older men who can smell out such bvllsh!t before it gets too out of control. When a younger woman tests a man her own age, it's typically to see if he's man enough. Sh!t tests are a common strategy of women to determine if he's fvck worthy. Such tests are Aced by experienced men, which is why you boys afraid to act should be acting for no other reason than to EXPERIENCE, and even FAIL if you have to.
There's far deeper reasons behind the cultural, biological and hormonal reasons behind what we do, but that's more for a thesis, than a posting.
Bottom line:
Men seek attractive partners who demonstrate compassion and partnership. Marriage is a contract like any other, and as it stands, we enter it with certain ASSUMPTIONS. As men, it's beauty, compassion, partnership, child-rearing, and support. When these factors decline, as some women let them go, it's only natural for men to leave, or seek side-partners.
Women seek partners who are first, able to handle their children, provide for them, protect them in a modern society sort of way, and partner with them. When a man loses his money, or resources, or his mind, most women leave him. Financial matters are one of the top reasons divorce occurs, so it should be no surprise that men divorce, or seek mistresses because passion and attraction declined or was lost. You don't have to look like Britney Spears, but you should respect your body enough all throughout life.
These trends won't be bucked, and attempting to do so is deluding yourself into believing that we aren't animals. We (being men and women) are animals, albeit higher forms of them. Yet, we still maintain our evolutionary nature.
I've dated younger, as low as 17, and fun it is, serious it's not. Variety is the spice of life, and you know not where a potential partner can come from. So try them all out.
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.